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  • #61
    Originally posted by Zapster View Post

    Why do (did) searchers keep bringing up the value of the gemstones? THERE ARE NO GEMSTONES LEFT TO BE HAD. That ended after Chicago and Cleveland with Preiss's death. The only remaining rewards are ceramic casques and keys, and the bragging rights of having solved one of the remaining 9 puzzles.
    Actually you are incorrect... Preiss' estate / Wife, Sandy will continue to honor any casques found... She has the jewels in a safe deposit box and Boston was recently found and awarded...

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    • #62
      That is correct. The bragging rights will be well respected. This is one of the most difficult hunts out there. You will have enough jewels to make your own Infinity Gauntlet.

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      • #63
        I am still in purgatory with this one. Waiting for permission to make a mess on public property takes a while I guess. Looks like it will cost me to pull this one out of the ground. I have never been so mad at a tree, and never thought that feeling was possible. I would like to chop it down into firewood.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Coinaster View Post

          Actually you are incorrect... Preiss' estate / Wife, Sandy will continue to honor any casques found... She has the jewels in a safe deposit box and Boston was recently found and awarded...
          Well, that's encouraging news if true, but it conflicts with this information from John Jude Palencar (the illustrator):

          "In 2014, a person claiming to be a "documentary filmmaker" posted a statement on the Q4T site saying that he had spoken with Byron Preiss's widow and that she still had the original jewels. The post claimed that the original agreement was still in force and that Mrs. Preiss would be awarding the jewels to the finders of the remaining 10 casques. A treasure hunter from Q4T then attempted to contact John Jude Palencar to confirm that information. In response to the inquiry, Palencar issued the following statement:

          Subject: Re: The Secret - Byron Preiss
          From: johnjudepalencar
          Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 17:44:54 -0400

          To Whom it may concern - The information you have is false and woefully incorrect. Mrs. Priess is not honoring any treasure finds. She no longer owns the intellectual property rights. Byron Preiss Visual Publication contracts and copyrights etc... were sold in a bankruptcy sale years ago. The book is out of print. Should the new owners of the intellectual property rights resurrect this book, it will be their decision.

          I cannot and will not help anyone find any treasures. I don't know where they are. So please let the treasure finding community know this fact! Let it also be know that I will not respond to any future email messages or phone calls regarding "The Secret " treasures.

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          • #65
            The publisher responded to me twice. They said they will honor the find, but they will not honor a written solve. You must have the casque in your hand. This was last year. Your information is from six years ago. Boston, hello! this one was just recently found. #New owners. I think Jonjudepalencar is the only person that knows. He painted over the clues. He just doesn't want to be bothered.

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            • #66
              Zapster You can view the Boston find and the awarding of the jewel on Discovery on Demand, Expedition Unknown, Season 7, Episode 12 Titled "The Secret - Solved"

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Coinaster View Post
                Zapster You can view the Boston find and the awarding of the jewel on Discovery on Demand, Expedition Unknown, Season 7, Episode 12 Titled "The Secret - Solved"
                It's in the queue -- I wanted to watch Josh's first episode on The Secret first (which I did over the weekend). I'm happy to learn that Palencar's information is outdated, though someone should update the Wiki page for The Secret to reflect the fact that gems are still being awarded to casque finders. I've been focusing my efforts for the last 3 weeks on the Milwaukee and St. Augustine puzzles, and making note of the elements in common to all three solved puzzles.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Zapster View Post

                  It's in the queue -- I wanted to watch Josh's first episode on The Secret first (which I did over the weekend). I'm happy to learn that Palencar's information is outdated, though someone should update the Wiki page for The Secret to reflect the fact that gems are still being awarded to casque finders. I've been focusing my efforts for the last 3 weeks on the Milwaukee and St. Augustine puzzles, and making note of the elements in common to all three solved puzzles.
                  I wouldn't trust that or PB Works either. I like PB works basics however... Thor/ Fenn type community is on Facebook under The Secret a site monitored by Dustin and Diedra White who were once guests on Expedition Unknown... There are certain rules to post such as the usual: Don't claim found unless you have proof, Be nice... etc... You know the routine... My observation however is that Dustin frequently breaks the be nice rule... Kpro for the most part never did that...

                  Florida is not in the Fountain of Youth Park in St Augustine, Don't waste your time there!

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                  • #69
                    Nice. I did find some similar clues in multiple images. There seem to be some patterns. Arches are very common and confusing at the same time. I am also exploring his use of numbers for a landmark or tree. He will have a dot with a number next to it. Not all of the numbers are measurements. In the Houston solve three trees had the same number and two trees next to them had the same but different number. Three of the trees are the same, and the other two are different. I came to this conclusion at my dig location. Enjoy! I recommend boots on the ground to put two and two together. Good luck!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Dezxman17 View Post
                      Nice. I did find some similar clues in multiple images. There seem to be some patterns. Arches are very common and confusing at the same time. I am also exploring his use of numbers for a landmark or tree. He will have a dot with a number next to it. Not all of the numbers are measurements. In the Houston solve three trees had the same number and two trees next to them had the same but different number. Three of the trees are the same, and the other two are different. I came to this conclusion at my dig location. Enjoy! I recommend boots on the ground to put two and two together. Good luck!
                      I will give up some important info for solves here.... You are correct in your arches observation, but they are not in all solves but the Black arches in the book are very important... VERY IMPORTANT to all solves... This is why the Boston picture is on the cover! The most important thing is the page that states Fair People hints come in 2's.... SO in this I have found that things presented in the paintings twice are in the solution only once and clues in the painting once are in a solution 2 times... Your Texas Location shows this 2nd aspect. Most believe that the Glassco Art School north of Hermann park is "fortress north cold as glass" and that the Chinese Friendship pavilion is "friendship south." This is one solution to one verse.... The pavilion is incorrect however as it is really the Pioneer Obelisk donated by the San Jacinto Monument Committee is the "south"....

                      The second occurrence is the Alamo which is west and the San Jacinto monument east... This leads to an unwritten rule that west can be north.... The Alamo had no windows and 2 weeks prior to its siege by General Santa Anna there was a 15" snowfall which is why Bowie was sick during this last stand "Cold as Glass" and when the Texians as they were called then defeated the Mexican army at San Jacinto.... With the battle cry of "Remember the Alamo" (because the dead where piled up and burned at the Alamo)!.... The Texians left the dead at San Jacinto to rot for years where they had died! This indiscretion was the catalyst for the San Jacinto monument and museum that was built to promote friendship... The Texas motto today is the "Friendly State" This is the 2nd point to the solve and both lead to Hermann Park....

                      What I just offered should help guide you!

                      One more thing.... I did not point to a map or present the painting here,,,,, I gave the underlying historic stories.... This is how you solve these puzzles!
                      Last edited by Coinaster; 12-22-2020, 11:01 AM.

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