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  • #16
    Amazing how it went from William Wordsworth to the Banana Boat song - some good stuff though.
    The Hero with an F in Good - has redeeming qualities that make part of him want to be a hero out of a desire to do good or the right thing. This character almost invariably has a checkered or mysterious past, or a bad reputation.

    Shiver my timbers, shiver my sails, DEAD! MEN! TELL! NO! TALES!

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    • #17
      I won’t dwell further on that because I’m grateful that the space between fact and fiction is often blurred by the passage of time
      https://www.oldsantafetradingco.com/...l-of-the-chase

      Dwelling - a house, flat, or other place of residence, home.
      Old English dwellan ‘lead astray, hinder, delay’ (in Middle English ‘tarry, remain in a place’), of Germanic origin; related to Middle Dutch dwellen‘stun, perplex’ and Old Norse dvelja ‘delay, tarry, stay’.
      The Hero with an F in Good - has redeeming qualities that make part of him want to be a hero out of a desire to do good or the right thing. This character almost invariably has a checkered or mysterious past, or a bad reputation.

      Shiver my timbers, shiver my sails, DEAD! MEN! TELL! NO! TALES!

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      • #18
        Very interesting
        https://youtu.be/mtLbE3IUY2U " If you know where the treasure is ...You should go get it."

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        • #19
          I just found this thread. I really like the ideas! All those years ago. People had a way to keep it together.
          Last edited by Wraith14u; 04-15-2019, 11:51 PM.
          https://youtu.be/mtLbE3IUY2U " If you know where the treasure is ...You should go get it."

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          • #20
            Measuring Rod

            A measuring rod is a tool used to physically measure lengths and survey areas of various sizes. Most measuring rods are round or square sectioned; however, they can also be flat boards. Some have markings at regular intervals. It is likely that the measuring rod was used before the line, chain or steel tapes used in modern measurement.

            The myth of Inanna's descent to the nether world describes how the goddess dresses and prepares herself:
            "She held the lapis-lazuli measuring rod and measuring line in her hand."[38]
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measuring_rod
            The first afternoon we found ourselves way up on top of a beautiful mountain under a lapis lazuli sky.
            https://www.oldsantafetradingco.com/...l-of-the-chase
            The Hero with an F in Good - has redeeming qualities that make part of him want to be a hero out of a desire to do good or the right thing. This character almost invariably has a checkered or mysterious past, or a bad reputation.

            Shiver my timbers, shiver my sails, DEAD! MEN! TELL! NO! TALES!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Wraith14u View Post
              I just found this thread. I really like the ideas! All those years ago. People had a way to keep it together.
              Thanks, just brainstorming.
              You could say it's confirmation bias at its finest but i prefer to think of it as a hidden hand that writes itself
              The Hero with an F in Good - has redeeming qualities that make part of him want to be a hero out of a desire to do good or the right thing. This character almost invariably has a checkered or mysterious past, or a bad reputation.

              Shiver my timbers, shiver my sails, DEAD! MEN! TELL! NO! TALES!

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              • #22
                So HOME & TARRY are potentially the same word - DWELLING (tarry scant - homeless?)

                MARVEL GAZE - is potentially Cyclops the apprentice tinsmith.

                INDENTURE - means Apprentice and a tooth edged legal land agreement. teeth of the rockies, toothbrush.

                Tarry scant and marvel gaze = Tinker (homeless apprentice tinsmith)
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker

                Tinker + Bell?

                There's a number of cartoon characters popping up in this for me at the moment.

                Muppets - John Denver and The Rocky Mountain Holiday.
                Muppets - Treasure Island
                Kermit the Frog - Frog in the chest
                Cyclops - The Marvel Comics
                Banana Man
                Tinman
                TinkerBell

                Heck, even Toledo gets a mention in The Rocky Mountain Holiday (23.18)
                (notice how John Denver can't understand what the letter says, but Kermit has no problem. animal language?)


                I did have Quasimodo at one stage, speaking of which did anyone see Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris burn yesterday?

                The Bells! 800 years old

                Last edited by BiggishShoes; 04-16-2019, 07:40 AM.
                The Hero with an F in Good - has redeeming qualities that make part of him want to be a hero out of a desire to do good or the right thing. This character almost invariably has a checkered or mysterious past, or a bad reputation.

                Shiver my timbers, shiver my sails, DEAD! MEN! TELL! NO! TALES!

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                • #23
                  "Tinker Tailor" is a counting game, nursery rhyme and fortune telling song traditionally played in England, that can be used to count cherry stones, buttons, daisy petals and other items. It has a Roud Folk Song Index number of 802. It is commonly used by children in both Britain and America for "counting out," e.g. for choosing who shall be "It" in a game of tag.
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker,_Tailor

                  Tinker, tailor, soldier, sailor,
                  Rich man, poor man, beggar man, thief,
                  Doctor, baker, fine shoe-maker,
                  Wise man, madman, taxman, please,
                  How can I know just what to be?
                  Please stop and give advice to me.
                  Tell me,
                  Tell me,
                  How many people do I help,
                  Just by sitting on the shelf,
                  Tell me,
                  Tell me,
                  I don't want a trade at all,
                  (It's for two?) living off the road.
                  Oh,
                  Tinker, tailor, soldier, sailor,
                  Rich man, poor man, beggar man, thief,
                  Doctor, baker, fine shoe-maker,
                  Wise man, madman, taxman, please.
                  Who's gonna tell me what to do?
                  Then they will say that I am true.
                  Maybe,
                  Maybe,
                  Perhaps I'll come to a great success,
                  Or possible a dreadful mess.
                  Maybe,
                  Maybe,
                  (Having buys it's?) fortune, fame,
                  Living's just a little game.
                  Woooo-aaah,
                  Tinker, tailor, soldier, sailor,
                  Rich man, poor man, beggar man, thief,
                  Doctor, baker, fine shoe-maker,
                  Wise man, madman, taxman, please.
                  How can I know just what to be,
                  Please stop and give advice to me,
                  Tell me,
                  Tell me,
                  How many people do I help,
                  Just by sitting on a shelf,
                  Tell me,
                  Tell me,
                  I don't want a trade at all,
                  (It's for two?) living off the road
                  Oh,
                  Tinker, tailor, soldier, sailor,
                  Rich man, poor man, beggar man, thief,
                  Doctor, baker, fine shoe-maker,
                  Wise man, madman, taxman, please.
                  Tinker, tailor, soldier, sailor
                  Last edited by BiggishShoes; 04-16-2019, 04:13 AM.
                  The Hero with an F in Good - has redeeming qualities that make part of him want to be a hero out of a desire to do good or the right thing. This character almost invariably has a checkered or mysterious past, or a bad reputation.

                  Shiver my timbers, shiver my sails, DEAD! MEN! TELL! NO! TALES!

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                  • #24
                    Tinker Bell - In original play and novel

                    Barrie described Tinker Bell as a fairy who mended pots and kettles, an actual tinker of the fairy folk.[1] Her speech consists of the sounds of a tinkling bell, which is understandable only to those familiar with the language of the fairies.
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_Bell
                    Pottery Shards - An interview with Forrest Fenn.


                    Maybe, the bit about tying the holes together to save the pot, is a reference to a Tinkers Dam.
                    Maybe, the bit about the black spot, is a reference to poker, treasure island and Vietnam calling cards.
                    Last edited by BiggishShoes; 04-16-2019, 05:54 AM.
                    The Hero with an F in Good - has redeeming qualities that make part of him want to be a hero out of a desire to do good or the right thing. This character almost invariably has a checkered or mysterious past, or a bad reputation.

                    Shiver my timbers, shiver my sails, DEAD! MEN! TELL! NO! TALES!

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                    • #25
                      Languages of Wee Folk (fairies)

                      Wee Folk use more languages than human beings. Almost any human language has at least some Wee Folk who speak it, and in addition, they have thousands of languages of their own. Nevertheless, nearly all of them can communicate with nearly all others, and the lack of common language is no barrier. The reason for this is that their primary method of communication is by telepathy, instead of, or in addition to, speaking.

                      Because they use telepathy so heavily, their spoken languages tend to be very simple. In fact, an example of an especially simple language of Wee Folk might consist entirely of words we might identify as nouns. A sentence in such language is simply a set of nouns strung together, without any regard to grammar. Each of these words has a telepathic image connected to it, which modifies it to the point of being far more specific than words in any human language. The words are only things to which ideas are attached, and so a Fairycould say something in the telepathic portion of the message having a meaning the words do not even hint at.
                      https://aspcwf.wordpress.com/2012/09...s-of-wee-folk/

                      Every word is placed in there strategically, and you can’t ignore any of the nouns in that poem.f
                      Imagination is more important than knowlege.f
                      Children might have an advantage, their eyes are better and they are more agile.
                      Last edited by BiggishShoes; 04-16-2019, 06:49 AM.
                      The Hero with an F in Good - has redeeming qualities that make part of him want to be a hero out of a desire to do good or the right thing. This character almost invariably has a checkered or mysterious past, or a bad reputation.

                      Shiver my timbers, shiver my sails, DEAD! MEN! TELL! NO! TALES!

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                      • #26
                        Fairy Language - Elidyr’s story (Welsh Daffodil)


                        Finally, we must note the very curious tale told of Elidyr by Gerald of Wales. Elidyr, as a boy, was one day escorted into an underground realm and subsequently spent much time there with the fairies. Years later, as a priest, he told his tale and, in particular, that:

                        “He had made himself acquainted with the language of that nation, the words of which, in his younger days, he used to recite, which, as the bishop often had informed me, were very conformable to the Greek idiom. When they asked for water, they said Ydor ydorum, which meant bring water, for ydor in their language, as well as in the Greek, signifies water, from whence vessels for water are called ydrie; and dwr also, in the British language, signifies water. When they wanted salt they said, Halgein ydorum, ‘bring salt’: salt is called als in Greek, and halen in British, for that language, from the length of time which the Britons (then called Trojans, and afterwards Britons, from Brito, their leader) remained in Greece after the destruction of Troy, became, in many instances, similar to the Greek.

                        It is remarkable that so many languages should correspond in one word, als in Greek, halen in British, and halgein in the Irish tongue, the g being inserted; sal in Latin, because, as Priscian says, ‘the s is placed in some words instead of an aspirate,’ as als in Greek is called sal in Latin, emi – semi, epta – septem – sel in French – the A being changed into E – salt in English, by the addition of T to the Latin; sout, in the Teutonic language: there are therefore seven or eight languages agreeing in this one word. If a scrupulous inquirer should ask my opinion of the relation here inserted, I answer with Augustine, ‘that the divine miracles are to be admired, not discussed.’ Nor do I, by denial, place bounds to the divine power, nor, by assent, insolently extend what cannot be extended. But I always call to mind the saying of St. Jerome; ‘You will find,’ says he, ‘many things incredible and improbable, which nevertheless are true; for nature cannot in any respect prevail against the lord of nature.’ These things, therefore, and similar contingencies, I should place, according to the opinion of Augustine, among those particulars which are neither to be affirmed, nor too positively denied.”
                        https://britishfairies.wordpress.com...airy-language/


                        What remains after warm water has evaporated?
                        Where Warm WaterS hALT
                        & Dr.Pepper
                        Last edited by BiggishShoes; 04-16-2019, 07:55 AM.
                        The Hero with an F in Good - has redeeming qualities that make part of him want to be a hero out of a desire to do good or the right thing. This character almost invariably has a checkered or mysterious past, or a bad reputation.

                        Shiver my timbers, shiver my sails, DEAD! MEN! TELL! NO! TALES!

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                        • #27
                          "What remains after warm water has evaporated?
                          Where Warm WaterS hALT"

                          Great Salt Lake. Once again, Utah!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Maus View Post
                            "What remains after warm water has evaporated?
                            Where Warm WaterS hALT"

                            Great Salt Lake. Once again, Utah!
                            I never mentioned Utah, There's the Salt Belt for example which Colorado is part of, and The Banana Belt. He does like his belt buckle.

                            Probably plenty of other Salts out there.
                            Last edited by BiggishShoes; 04-16-2019, 08:43 AM.
                            The Hero with an F in Good - has redeeming qualities that make part of him want to be a hero out of a desire to do good or the right thing. This character almost invariably has a checkered or mysterious past, or a bad reputation.

                            Shiver my timbers, shiver my sails, DEAD! MEN! TELL! NO! TALES!

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                            • #29
                              Great salt lake was on my list for a long time but then Fenn took Utah out so now I have moved on to Alkaline Fflats

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Envictus View Post
                                Great salt lake was on my list for a long time but then Fenn took Utah out so now I have moved on to Alkaline Fflats
                                Very Good, i'm not saying it is salt btw, just that it seems to fit on many levels.
                                The Hero with an F in Good - has redeeming qualities that make part of him want to be a hero out of a desire to do good or the right thing. This character almost invariably has a checkered or mysterious past, or a bad reputation.

                                Shiver my timbers, shiver my sails, DEAD! MEN! TELL! NO! TALES!

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