The stanzas after you "take tbe chest".

[Not4but242Walk]

I caught only a couple of minutes of last night's Discord speakeasy voice chat, but recall kpro and others questioning the reason behind the poem having two additional stanzas after one has the chest in hand.

So, stanza 5:
You have a poem as your map of sorts, but what does it represent? The poem is not just missing a name but is also missing a theme. Look to answer the question posed. Now, how many actually did this?

The answer is known to F, but you need to think on it. No problem, he hints at it in the last line. He's done it tired and now he's week. In other words, he's on his last legs.

Last leg = final flight segment
You now have a theme and approach to the poem.

Onto stanza 6:
F recognizes there is a barrier of sorts that may have searchers second-guessing themselves. A cold but modest size creek to cross. He goads you, letting you know it will be worth it, if you are brave (you decide to cross) and you are in the wood (the cold creek).

Why the wood? You are seeking a wooden-named creek on your way to the chest.

[Cary_Galloway]

Because the treasure was never the point of the poem.
Same with TTOTC it wasn't a treasure book.
FF only used a treasure to attract people to his stories that never sold without it. He wrote books that never sold. He wanted his story to be read. Same with the poem

The poem isn't about finding his treasure chest.
The poem is about him describing how to get to his favorite fishing hole and even describing the fishing hole.
He is saying that he's fished it tired and he's giving the spot to you.

[RahRah]

Because the treasure was never the point of the poem.
Same with TTOTC it wasn't a treasure book.
FF only used a treasure to attract people to his stories that never sold without it. He wrote books that never sold. He wanted his story to be read. Same with the poem

The poem isn't about finding his treasure chest.
The poem is about him describing how to get to his favorite fishing hole and even describing the fishing hole.
He is saying that he's fished it tired and he's giving the spot to you.

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[voxpops]

"The answer(s) I already know..."

A couple or so years ago I mentioned the declassified CIA Mars "remote viewing" document, which was part of a fascinating experiment delving into the demise of a Martian civilization that, for some reason, certain people in that organization must have believed to be (potentially) true. I have speculated that FF may have had similar "viewing" abilities. I recall that he once mentioned, in passing to a searcher, a technique for communicating with dead people. Perhaps he was just being "mysterious," but if not, could the "most spiritual person around" have trained himself to "see" the future? If so, that might help with the "already know" line . . .

Yes, I know it's a crazy, outlandish idea, but I'm not going to discount any possibility.

[Cary_Galloway]

IMO the poem is every facet of Forrest’s life. We shouldn’t discount any particular thing related to him, whether it’s 9mh or not. We all have our own stories and we write them as we go. There are pages and chapters into each…yet all of those stories come to an end. The finder was saved a significant piece of that story. I suppose that’s where we are now. But, that’s just my opinion…and I’m sticking to it.

I like to think of "hint of riches new and old" as FF's treasured memories.
It works as other meanings too.
old and new riches in the chest
old and new forest growth
old and new memories

[trueyeti]

"The answer(s) I already know..."

A couple or so years ago I mentioned the declassified CIA Mars "remote viewing" document, which was part of a fascinating experiment delving into the demise of a Martian civilization that, for some reason, certain people in that organization must have believed to be (potentially) true. I have speculated that FF may have had similar "viewing" abilities. I recall that he once mentioned, in passing to a searcher, a technique for communicating with dead people. Perhaps he was just being "mysterious," but if not, could the "most spiritual person around" have trained himself to "see" the future? If so, that might help with the "already know" line . . .

Yes, I know it's a crazy, outlandish idea, but I'm not going to discount any possibility.

Whose to say whether or not Forrest was a shaman?

[crow]

"Take the chest" is part of the directions to the treasure chest, not the point in the poem where you find the treasure chest. IMO of course.

[voxpops]

Whose to say whether or not Forrest was a shaman?

None of us can answer that with certainty, but I think it's quite likely.

[Gunrunner]

Just about everything after "take the chest" is one hint after the other:

"...and go in peace."
the International Peace Park

"So why is it that I must go
and leave my trove for all to seek?"
Speaks to land type and accessibility -- it's somewhere that everyone can legally and reasonably get to (and expect to be able to claim title to the chest).

"The answers I already know..."
and you'll start to figure it out, too, once you realize the blaze is Forrest's parachute.

"I've done it tired..."
Glacier National Park is called The Crown of the Continent. A "tire" is an ornamental headdress. A crown for the Crown.
A "tire" is also a volley of cannon fire. The blaze is found on the side of Mount Cannon by triangulating from fire towers. Cannon fire.

"So hear me all and listen good..."
"I knew my friends would be listening" for the beeper in my parachute.

"Your effort will be worth the cold..."
An allusion to Glacier. Yes, it's a cold place, but don't worry about that; the heat you generate from the short climb up to the treasure location will be equal to cold. (More than equal, in my limited experience...)

"If you are brave..."
You'll be going up the hillside below the blaze. You'll be going under "Cannon fire"...
(Oh, forgot to mention, watch out for bears, too. Definitely some sign there.)

"...and in the wood..."
There are two ways to get "quickly down" from the blaze -- one way is in the open, up the little stream below the waterfall. The other way is through the big woods. You can't get to the woods if you go in by the stream. You have to be in the tall trees to get to the "big pile of rocks" at the base of the cliff -- the rocks where Forrest was standing in "My War For Me" and waving like a windmill.

[Cary_Galloway]

Just about everything after "take the chest" is one hint after the other:

"...and go in peace."
the International Peace Park

"So why is it that I must go
and leave my trove for all to seek?"
Speaks to land type and accessibility -- it's somewhere that everyone can legally and reasonably get to (and expect to be able to claim title to the chest).

"The answers I already know..."
and you'll start to figure it out, too, once you realize the blaze is Forrest's parachute.

"I've done it tired..."
Glacier National Park is called The Crown of the Continent. A "tire" is an ornamental headdress. A crown for the Crown.
A "tire" is also a volley of cannon fire. The blaze is found on the side of Mount Cannon by triangulating from fire towers. Cannon fire.

"So hear me all and listen good..."
"I knew my friends would be listening" for the beeper in my parachute.

"Your effort will be worth the cold..."
An allusion to Glacier. Yes, it's a cold place, but don't worry about that; the heat you generate from the short climb up to the treasure location will be equal to cold. (More than equal, in my limited experience...)

"If you are brave..."
You'll be going up the hillside below the blaze. You'll be going under "Cannon fire"...
(Oh, forgot to mention, watch out for bears, too. Definitely some sign there.)

"...and in the wood..."
There are two ways to get "quickly down" from the blaze -- one way is in the open, up the little stream below the waterfall. The other way is through the big woods. You can't get to the woods if you go in by the stream. You have to be in the tall trees to get to the "big pile of rocks" at the base of the cliff -- the rocks where Forrest was standing in "My War For Me" and waving like a windmill.

this is the worst solve i think i've heard

[FennPoint]

Could it be that he wanted his poem to contain 602 letters? (Spoiler alert - correct answer starts with Y.)

See the thread: ALONE unpacked

FP

[Gunrunner]

this is the worst solve i think i've heard

Well, admittedly, I didn't heed Forrest's advice when he said excellent research materials were "Ramblings and Rumblings" and Photoshop.

And I paid him no mind, either, when he said, "If you don't read anything else, read FLY Water." Went right over my head.

[FennPoint]

Well, admittedly, I didn't heed Forrest's advice when he said excellent research materials were "Ramblings and Rumblings" and Photoshop.

And I paid him no mind, either, when he said, "If you don't read anything else, read FLY Water." Went right over my head.

Not me.. I read Flywater. I agree, it does have some great “color plates” of quality fishing spots. When I read the book, I found the foreword to be where the hints were. References to San Miguel. Google San Miguel and bells and you’ll see what I’m talking about.

FP

[Rose Livingstone]

"Take the chest" is part of the directions to the treasure chest, not the point in the poem where you find the treasure chest. IMO of course.

No one else has mentioned this, but the root of ‘take’ is the same as ‘touch’ and ‘cover’. We live in a a capitalist environment where “mine is mine and I have ownership whether I currently need it or use it or not. I’ll let it rot all by itself before I give it to someone else in need.”
This mindset is warped and not in alliance with longevity. For a species. For the planet. For humanity in a poetic philosophical psychological determinative means definition test of “humanity”.

[goldwatch]

No one else has mentioned this, but the root of ‘take’ is the same as ‘touch’ and ‘cover’. We live in a a capitalist environment where “mine is mine and I have ownership whether I currently need it or use it or not. I’ll let it rot all by itself before I give it to someone else in need.”
This mindset is warped and not in alliance with longevity. For a species. For the planet. For humanity in a poetic philosophical psychological determinative means definition test of “humanity”.

Rose, I'm sorry but this kind of thinking bothers me a great deal. Let me explain.
First, the very reason for "money" is as a convenient "store of wealth." There's a need for this "store of wealth" for the even more convenient capability to do business using something of recognized value, better still if that something actually had real life lasting value behind it (as opposed to something like tulip bulbs).

Would it be fair for a person who produces more than others, through their own hard work and capabilities, to not be compensated for it? Of course not. So then, what should they do with excess money? Did they not earn it? (Let's assume that they did, and not a criminal.)

Beyond that, there's the question of how that money is saved, does it just sit there and do nothing? No, it doesn't in most cases. Sure, there's that "under the mattress" thing, but usually excess money is invested in some fashion. Whether that's invested in stocks and bonds and that sort of thing, or simply put in the bank, that money goes to work to create more growth in the economy than without it.
That growth equals jobs and earnings for others.

This is why that sort of thinking bothers me, it's just not accurate.
I hope you can see this. Thanks for listening.