Forrest Fenn Loved the Nine Mile Hole

[Livinlifebig]

At least you are in the right state and in the park.
My solve was in Montana.
So you got that going for you. But the hunt is over. The chest was found and it was found at 9mh.
Why do you keep holding on?

Your WWWH is wrong because there were not a lot of people that used that WWWH.
And why would FF pick a plugged geyser for his HOB?
And how could the little girl from India figure out from just using a map of the rockies that was WWWH?
And where is your canyon?
And why is an ant nest home of Brown?
And how many people on this forum have you convinced that a giant ant nest is HOB?

You are jumping to conclusions. How do you get a plugged geyser for HOB.? HOB is several miles away for WWWH.
Gibbon hill, Gibbon Canyon.
never said an ants nest is HOB.

You put in below the HOB, and walk, then you see the ants nest. But it is not HOB.

Several people like my solve, it is logical and has imagination and is contiguous.

I am here for the truth. But it has not arrived yet.

[Knowledge]

I am pretty sure this person knows the truth and who the real finders are. This is the big push to hide the truth and push nine mile over the goal line.
One of the ten that met in the backyard most likely not. More like a family member of one of the finders. The chest was never earned and f trusted the wrong person to retrieve it.
Oh f it was not there, them website people must have it. Jack to f answer me 50 wink wink 50 wink wink. What happened at 50 f would know at 70. Stealing everything is the only way to make the sin go away. It was one thing when no one solved it but EVERYONE in the know knows what happened and they pretend the island might be harmed. F told Dal he was being blackmailed by who ? and why would he end the chase for that? Maybe selling houses is not the same as selling lies. That gold showed everyone who they really were all along, and when given a chance to make things right, it was far too much to ask, becasue the world revolves around them. Everyone does the right thing when people are looking, you are what you do when no one is. So I will tell everything I have found about the second chest or bells or jars whatever f left by the border of WY and Col.

[Cary_Galloway]

I am pretty sure this person knows the truth and who the real finders are. This is the big push to hide the truth and push nine mile over the goal line.
One of the ten that met in the backyard most likely not. More like a family member of one of the finders. The chest was never earned and f trusted the wrong person to retrieve it.
Oh f it was not there, them website people must have it. Jack to f answer me 50 wink wink 50 wink wink. What happened at 50 f would know at 70. Stealing everything is the only way to make the sin go away. It was one thing when no one solved it but EVERYONE in the know knows what happened and they pretend the island might be harmed. F told Dal he was being blackmailed by who ? and why would he end the chase for that? Maybe selling houses is not the same as selling lies. That gold showed everyone who they really were all along, and when given a chance to make things right, it was far too much to ask, becasue the world revolves around them. Everyone does the right thing when people are looking, you are what you do when no one is. So I will tell everything I have found about the second chest or bells or jars whatever f left by the border of WY and Col.

Well prepare to be severely disappointed.

[jan_v60]

You don’t even know what you don’t know lol imo. Believe what you want but don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

I edited my post. Something wrong with Thor. My comments were quoted as published by Cary_Galloway.
go back to the post.

[shyorphan]

I edited my post. Something wrong with Thor. My comments were quoted as published by Cary_Galloway.
go back to the post.

I agree completely with your assessment/remarks. There is more to the story than is currently known imo.

[Hear me all]

Miss Cary are you possibly Mz. Maven in disguise?

[Zapster]

All it takes is one piece of counter-evidence to kill a solution. The impossible solar lighting on the chest (had it been at Rudy's location south of Nine Mile Hole) achieves that. (The magically closing log check is also damning, as is the mismatch in log diameter, but these are just icing on the disproof cake.) I think it's also worth pointing out that the folks on the 9MH bandwagon are fine with the open chest photo having been taken fairly early in the day on Friday morning, June 5th, but have they thought this through? It would mean Jack (or whoever) not only left it there for over 24 hours before retrieving it, but he also waited over 10 hours to contact Forrest to ostensibly get his permission to remove it?! Who would do that?

If any sensible person found it at ~8 am and had (silly) qualms about removing it prior to calling or emailing Forrest, they certainly would not wait nearly 12 hours to do so. They'd be on the blower or the computer as soon as they had a cell signal or internet connection. That's 90 minutes tops from Rudy's spot to take pictures, rehide it, cross the Madison back to the car (without drowning) and drive to West Yellowstone. You'd have Forrest's reply/blessing by noon, and you'd go right back and grab it. So no, that's not the correct timeline.

The open chest picture was taken in late afternoon (no earlier than 4:30 pm), not early morning. That is the only timing that makes sense, and of course having the sun in the west is absolutely impossible for a treasure chest butted up against Rudy's log.

Just to be clear: this does NOT rule out the 9MH general area as being where the treasure chest was hidden; but it does absolutely rule out Rudy's location. If someone insists on it being in that vicinity, they need to locate a log that is NOT oriented north-south, but instead is aligned west-southwest to east-northeast with the treasure butted up against its north side.

[Livinlifebig]

All it takes is one piece of counter-evidence to kill a solution. The impossible solar lighting on the chest (had it been at Rudy's location south of Nine Mile Hole) achieves that. (The magically closing log check is also damning, as is the mismatch in log diameter, but these are just icing on the disproof cake.) I think it's also worth pointing out that the folks on the 9MH bandwagon are fine with the open chest photo having been taken fairly early in the day on Friday morning, June 5th, but have they thought this through? It would mean Jack (or whoever) not only left it there for over 24 hours before retrieving it, but he also waited over 10 hours to contact Forrest to ostensibly get his permission to remove it?! Who would do that?

If any sensible person found it at ~8 am and had (silly) qualms about removing it prior to calling or emailing Forrest, they certainly would not wait nearly 12 hours to do so. They'd be on the blower or the computer as soon as they had a cell signal or internet connection. That's 90 minutes tops from Rudy's spot to take pictures, rehide it, cross the Madison back to the car (without drowning) and drive to West Yellowstone. You'd have Forrest's reply/blessing by noon, and you'd go right back and grab it. So no, that's not the correct timeline.

The open chest picture was taken in late afternoon (no earlier than 4:30 pm), not early morning. That is the only timing that makes sense, and of course having the sun in the west is absolutely impossible for a treasure chest butted up against Rudy's log.

Just to be clear: this does NOT rule out the 9MH general area as being where the treasure chest was hidden; but it does absolutely rule out Rudy's location. If someone insists on it being in that vicinity, they need to locate a log that is NOT oriented north-south, but instead is aligned west-southwest to east-northeast with the treasure butted up against its north side.

Like this log? SSE, NNE

SB239

I wrote Forrest in how I will not disturb the ground looking for his treasure. The covenants of my 2.5 acres of land are on a RPA, no ground disturbances or buildings are allowed. I respect nature as it is.




"Sometimes you have to just grab a misplaced tradition by the tail and rearrange it back like it’s supposed to be. f

Its a beautiful site!

[Spoon]

All it takes is one piece of counter-evidence to kill a solution.

Sadly, people will embrace those things that confirm their biases and ignore those that contradict them. I think we are all made this way, perhaps to differing degrees.

[trueyeti]

Jack found the chest.
Jack's search area was 9mh.

How do you avoid those two facts?

Cover story, cover-up, cover your tracks....the email from Dal.... "I will cause the chase to come to an end.....chest photographed in-situ." That's how. No "where the first clue is," and no proof of the one blaze out of 10-billion....save staged pic, staged stick, staged play upon the stage to tie it all together in a back up cover story....on the stage. Jack.....put faith in anything he says/wrote/etc? 2 can keep a secret...if 1 is dead....

[Livinlifebig]

Cover story, cover-up, cover your tracks....the email from Dal.... "I will cause the chase to come to an end.....chest photographed in-situ." That's how. No "where the first clue is," and no proof of the one blaze out of 10-billion....save staged pic, staged stick, staged play upon the stage to tie it all together in a back up cover story....on the stage. Jack.....put faith in anything he says/wrote/etc? 2 can keep a secret...if 1 is dead....

All true.

[Zapster]

One more strike against 9MH, for anyone keeping score, is Forrest's answer when asked years ago (and long before Jack had even heard of the Chase): "Do you know who has been the closest to the chest, man or woman?" (paraphrased, but close). After commenting about the questioner playing the gender card, Forrest replied that it was a man, but that a woman may have been with him. (Side curiosity: if Forrest thought maybe a woman and man were there searching together, how would he know which of the two of them was closer?)

This was at a time that the searcher(s) closest to the chest were within 200 feet. So here's the pickle: by that time, Diggin Gypsy had been on the south side of the Madison right at 9MH. She was not searching with any dudes. If she was accompanied on that particular occasion, it was by one or more of her sisters. Forrest knew this (Marti emailed him all the time), so that leaves us with three possibilities:
1. Forrest lied about the gender of the closest searcher
2. As close as Marti was, some male had been closer by the time the question was posed
3. The treasure was not on the south side of the Madison near 9MH.

Nookers will likely choose option 2, but given the generic appearance of the topography in that area, it would be pretty tough for Forrest to conclude someone was closer to the treasure than Marti based on descriptions in emails or even pictures. One tree looks the same as another in that area.

Besides, if the 9MH nook was correct, Marti was clearly closer to it than 200 feet. Yet Forrest said (much later) that he didn't know that anyone had been CLOSER than 200 feet. That would obviously be false in this situation. Just being on the south bank of the Madison at 9MH puts you less than 200 feet from Rudy's spot.

[Cary_Galloway]

One more strike against 9MH, for anyone keeping score, is Forrest's answer when asked years ago (and long before Jack had even heard of the Chase): "Do you know who has been the closest to the chest, man or woman?" (paraphrased, but close). After commenting about the questioner playing the gender card, Forrest replied that it was a man, but that a woman may have been with him. (Side curiosity: if Forrest thought maybe a woman and man were there searching together, how would he know which of the two of them was closer?)

This was at a time that the searcher(s) closest to the chest were within 200 feet. So here's the pickle: by that time, Diggin Gypsy had been on the south side of the Madison right at 9MH. She was not searching with any dudes. If she was accompanied on that particular occasion, it was by one or more of her sisters. Forrest knew this (Marti emailed him all the time), so that leaves us with three possibilities:
1. Forrest lied about the gender of the closest searcher
2. As close as Marti was, some male had been closer by the time the question was posed
3. The treasure was not on the south side of the Madison near 9MH.

Nookers will likely choose option 2, but given the generic appearance of the topography in that area, it would be pretty tough for Forrest to conclude someone was closer to the treasure than Marti based on descriptions in emails or even pictures. One tree looks the same as another in that area.

Besides, if the 9MH nook was correct, Marti was clearly closer to it than 200 feet. Yet Forrest said (much later) that he didn't know that anyone had been CLOSER than 200 feet. That would obviously be false in this situation. Just being on the south bank of the Madison at 9MH puts you less than 200 feet from Rudy's spot.

Jack Stuef's search area for 25 days was 9mh. Jack said he found it at the spot he was searching for 25 days.
Jack found the chest.

I guess that kindof ruins all your arguments.

[Spoon]

Ah yes, Zapster, isn't it amazing how things that are untrue begin to unravel upon close examination?

[Zapster]

Jack Stuef's search area for 25 days was 9mh.

First of all, Jack did not make that claim. You drew that conclusion from condor2's posts, none of which said he searched the 9MH area for 25 days. Even if Jack DID search the 9MH area over and over, that has nothing to do with my arguments above.

I've already disproved that Rudy's spot was where the chest was hidden (as have others), and freely admitted my analysis didn't rule out that general area of the Madison, just that specific spot. My reason for bringing up Diggin Gypsy is that her presence there many years before ALSO eliminates Rudy's nook, or makes Forrest a liar about the gender of the closest searcher, because she was within 150 feet of Rudy's nook.