Forrest Fenn Loved the Nine Mile Hole

[Cary_Galloway]

F did love 9MH but if you ever owned TTOTC and read it, you would know that f said he was IN LOVE WITH YELLOWSTONE. Even for those challenged by math, they can correctly deduce that the allotment of Yellowstone is more acreage than say little ole 9MH that wasn't mentioned as often as other haunts in Yellowstone.

F's comments over the years are grossly at odds. I could spend 3 years showing you how but I have better things to do. The biggest reason 9MH doesn't work is because you can't even force the poem to fit that area when using logic or imagination. A quick example is WWWH. F said it was golden clue and if you found that it would be game over. Using logic, nothing halts in that area. Using imagination, nothing halts. Things halt where there is a barrier. A dam, border, wall, fence, a stop light, door or threshold.

Not sure if you just got tired of the challenge or just like cheesy ideas slopped together in a bucket in hopes that you might get a pass. F wasn't an elaborate genius but he did require you use some basic thinking to arrive on his threshold to collect the prize.

F kept saying the blaze marked the spot very well but those who followed Rudy into the thicket of logs had nothing obvious or standing out that was likely to last especially with the fires that ravage the wilderness.

It's not too late to cross the fence and come back to right side. You might get tangled in the bobbed wire of searchers who won't leave 9MH but it will feel so refreshing and you won't get stranded and have to call the Yellowstone patrol to rescue like the others when they can't navigate the waters or snow in certain seasons. I don't think I need to remind you that an ancient man walked to the spot and openly carried treasure in has hands. He didn't say he held on to a staff for balance or waded. He told us it was not difficult. I challenge any searcher who reaches 79 and still can't comprehend, to navigate the river in any weather.

if it was so well marked then why did FF tell Cynthia he needed to use a 150 string to find his way back.
And why was the chest found 150 feet from the bank of the Madison?

[Meander]

I haven’t given much thought to 9mh as a legit solve for two reasons. 1. In my mind, the solve lacks any spark of imagination. 2. More importantly, there is the risk factor to consider. Mind you, I’ve never waded across the Madison but I’ve seen videos of fellow searchers mid thigh deep. Imagine you have found the 42 lb treasure. How do you get it safely back across the Madison River? There is no bridge to cross so you have to make some serious decisions. Do you put a cool million dollar prize in your backpack and start wading across the river, hoping that you don’t slip and have the weight on your back take you under to a watery grave? If you let the backpack go in order to save yourself from being pulled under, would you be able to retrieve the now waterlogged chest again from the bottom of the river? Come on, people! Put yourself in the boots of someone facing this sort of crossing. Is it really a feasible location?

[Cary_Galloway]

I haven’t given much thought to 9mh as a legit solve for two reasons. 1. In my mind, the solve lacks any spark of imagination. 2. More importantly, there is the risk factor to consider. Mind you, I’ve never waded across the Madison but I’ve seen videos of fellow searchers mid thigh deep. Imagine you have found the 42 lb treasure. How do you get it safely back across the Madison River? There is no bridge to cross so you have to make some serious decisions. Do you put a cool million dollar prize in your backpack and start wading across the river, hoping that you don’t slip and have the weight on your back take you under to a watery grave? If you let the backpack go in order to save yourself from being pulled under, would you be able to retrieve the now waterlogged chest again from the bottom of the river? Come on, people! Put yourself in the boots of someone facing this sort of crossing. Is it really a feasible location?

This guy's kids made it across. They don't look very tall.


Here's Rudy crossing:

Here's Lou Lee Belle crossing:

[lowkey]

I think Forrest said someone in a wheelchair could make it to the spot with a little help.

[Knowledge]

The galloway seems to be a place where the sheriff hung the outlaw with a new rope out of respect. And a place where someone could never see the Forrest through the trees. Where Jack is the hero who never lied and Forrest Fenn is a dumb hick who fished with flies. Nine Mile was made up to hide the real location and anyone dumb enough to think a man who spent his life in the wild needed a string. Needs to find a new hobby other than Netflicks I want my 15 min becasue I chased a rabbit hole. You have said I must be lying becasue I said f confirmed the chest was found on the Laramie River. I say let us have a lie detector test and let's show are real names. Put a few under oath, I would welcome the chance. If someone does not know where they came from, they will never know how far they can go.

[Knowledge]

Under oath a place Jack ran from, you know after f gave everything to save him from his fame.

[Cary_Galloway]

I think Forrest said someone in a wheelchair could make it to the spot with a little help.

"If you or your son have any physical limitations please don’t attempt the search." -f

being in a wheelchair is the definition of a physical limitation.

[lowkey]

Ok. I am probably wrong, I thought I remembered him saying that but I dont have a source to back it up. Until then I acknowledge that I am likely wrong

[Meander]

This guy's kids made it across. They don't look very tall.


Here's Rudy crossing:

Here's Lou Lee Belle crossing:

Thank you. I see that I was unnecessarily intimidated.

[Knowledge]

There was one searcher party within 200 feet in ten years, note when Forrest says people and when he says, searchers. None of his statements fits a place like Nine Mile.
Take the time and read what f says, and stop trying to make Forrest into something he was not. The first 200-foot searcher is the only one who ever came close until it was found.
Note how many figured out the first two clues in all that time. What f says matters you say, well deal with the numbers. This game will end soon

https://mysteriouswritings.com/forrest-fenn-quotes-on-the-closest-searcher-200-feet-and-500-feet-to-the-treasure-chest-remarks/

[Gunrunner]

if it was so well marked then why did FF tell Cynthia he needed to use a 150 string to find his way back.
And why was the chest found 150 feet from the bank of the Madison?

It is firmly established, without any attempt at rebuttal, that Rudy's log is not where the treasure was found. So what makes you think the chest was found 150 feet from the bank of the Madison? How were so many people -- people far less familiar with the area than Forrest, at that -- so easily able to locate Rudy's spot without a string?

And who has even seen this supposed string? Who measured it to see how long it was? Why would a string 150 feet long mean the treasure was 150 feet from anything in particular? And why would Forrest keep a wad of string, serving no purpose whatsoever, other than to be right there in the way every time he went after something in that drawer?

So many questions that no one even thinks to ask.

[Cary_Galloway]

It is firmly established, without any attempt at rebuttal, that Rudy's log is not where the treasure was found. So what makes you think the chest was found 150 feet from the bank of the Madison? How were so many people -- people far less familiar with the area than Forrest, at that -- so easily able to locate Rudy's spot without a string?

And who has even seen this supposed string? Who measured it to see how long it was? Why would a string 150 feet long mean the treasure was 150 feet from anything in particular? And why would Forrest keep a wad of string, serving no purpose whatsoever, other than to be right there in the way every time he went after something in that drawer?

So many questions that no one even thinks to ask.

There is so much evidence: the log, the stump, the hanging bark, both positions of the chest confirmed.
And even the stick found there.
You can see the images compared on http://fennchest.com
Jack was the finder and it is confirmed through his posts on reddit and his emails to FF that his search area was 9mh.
Cynthia was told about the 150ft of string FF used and the site Rudy found was 150 feet from the bank of the Madison.
And it has been written by FF himself that 9mh is his favorite fishing hole.
FOIA'ed emails between park officials and rangers at Yellowstone also confirm 9mh because they directly talk about it in regards to the timing of the chest talk.
FF, Jack, Jack's lawyer and the head park rangers were on a zoom call after the find. Confirmation that it was in Yellowstone National Park.
FF and Jack agreed to release the information that the chest was in Wyoming.
FF on several affidavit (swearing under oath under penalty of law) said it was found in Wyoming.

Sorry, pal. It wasn't glacier, Montana.

[Gunrunner]

There is so much evidence: the log, the stump, the hanging bark, both positions of the chest confirmed. And even the stick found there.
You can see the images compared on http://fennchest.com

And you can see the utter refutation of these indefensible "comparisons" right here on THOR. This is merely repeating the same empty claims that have already been shown to be false. Rudy's log and Jack's log are two different logs. If the logs are not the same log, the rest of this stuff is not worth analysis -- other than as an academic exercise, which, come to think of it, you might could stand a little of. So get after it. I've already looked at it -- let's see if you can spot some of the more obvious problems.

[voxpops]

Gunrunner and Cary_Galloway, I think you may both be right! If we have been deliberately led to 9MH in order to witness the aberrations there, then it's important to the story, but not the end of the story. I think that it may serve to offer information about the next (final?) stage of the hunt. You don't get self-repairing logs, northern sunrises and a lack of meaningful correlation with the poem for no reason, IMO. Fenn was far too smart for that. I think we need to study the whole 9MH saga with an open and forensic mind.

[trueyeti]

There is so much evidence: the log, the stump, the hanging bark, both positions of the chest confirmed.
And even the stick found there.
You can see the images compared on http://fennchest.com
Jack was the finder and it is confirmed through his posts on reddit and his emails to FF that his search area was 9mh.
Cynthia was told about the 150ft of string FF used and the site Rudy found was 150 feet from the bank of the Madison.
And it has been written by FF himself that 9mh is his favorite fishing hole.
FOIA'ed emails between park officials and rangers at Yellowstone also confirm 9mh because they directly talk about it in regards to the timing of the chest talk.
FF, Jack, Jack's lawyer and the head park rangers were on a zoom call after the find. Confirmation that it was in Yellowstone National Park.
FF and Jack agreed to release the information that the chest was in Wyoming.
FF on several affidavit (swearing under oath under penalty of law) said it was found in Wyoming.

Sorry, pal. It wasn't glacier, Montana.

Those things that you call evidence are findings. But they are highly questionable and assailable. They do not stand up to scrutiny at all in the context of answering for location and the solve. That is what 9MH is missing. You are ignoring the most important thing; "where the first clue is," as per Forrest. I have suggested that you go back to the drawing board and prove location. A string, hole, staged picture of a chest, are a subversion of the correct solve, unless you can prove location 100%. If anything...is certain, it is that the whole enchilada out there stinks like a rouse, a red-herring, a staged and a fake solve, a counterfeit, a mirage...... until 9MH....can prove location.....then, maybe all that stuff associated with it will gain credibility. Until then....it is not. Simpatico?

9MH, you need to understand this....process this....assimilate this.....and go back to the drawing board. Because as of right now you are false in proving location. You are operating counter to what Forrest said and conducting a form of self-psychological manipulation on yourself that is a subversion of truth. Your solve is subjective (based on sentimentality and highly questionable "evidence"), and far removed from objectivity (what is).

If the 9MH solve...is not a subversion of truth, then the burden of proof is on 9MH to prove location....as per Forrest's instruction. It is not how you think it is....it is how he said it regarding "where the first clue is." If you can't prove that .....then you are doing this community a disservice and you need to take a hike....and think about the answer for location and 9MH. If you can't do that....I don't care how many new picks of the nook, or how many trips you make there (or anyone else too)....it does not matter. There is not a solve for that location that answers 100% for location as per "where the first clue is." WWWH....is a function of location....of "where the first clue is." Get that through your head....go back to the drawing board. Communicate with the others who subscribe to 9MH......work on it.....come back when you can prove location. Or else....you are doing a disservice to the memory of Forrest and you are marring common sense and rationality and reality. Until you prove location 9MH, you are living in a sentimental fantasy.....far from reality. Be objective.....focus on location. Until you have that....we don't buy the pics, the story, the nook, or the narrative of 9MH. Bisti destroys 9MH....unequivocally, because it proves location with 100% certainty. You must top that mate. If you can't......Then you....and 9MH....are beaten and defeated.....go back to the drawing board......and prove LOCATION. Until then....Bisti claims victory over 9MH....and yet it is not me....rather....it is objective reality. Geez....

The claims that you are making based on the findings that you present are highly questionable and not substantiated by a solve that is bullet proof. And besides that....you can't substantiate and prove location to 100% like Bisti does. ----That is why the 9MH solve is like Swiss Cheese and defeated. The many holes in it can not be filled by what your findings show because they are questionable, assailable, fantasy, etc....until you prove location 100%. That website that you point out does the same thing.

All that stuff you cite up there about the courts, meetings, affidavits etc....are hollow. Possession is nine tenths of the law....you can't say that Forrest was not committed to his vision/intention to do what he also said....and that was that he would never reveal the location of where he hid his chest. IMO.....that (Forrest) beats these things you bring up mate (Forrest).....it is not proof 100%, rather it is a contradiction of something that he said he would never do as I recall. Yellowstone/9MH.....fails in location. Accept defeat.....face reality......stop living in subjective fantasy.

Yeah yeah yeah, then he comes out and says something like "Since there are solves out there that seemingly fit so well, I called the finder and we decided to reveal the chest was recovered in Wyoming." Subterfuge much Forrest? Subterfuge is his name man....Mandrake Fenn.....if your smart enough to argue for 9MH....then try putting those smarts to work to understand....the many issues with the subterfuge involved with Yellow/Hill and Mandrake Fenn, and location...... Geez.