4 and 23 Relevance

[starwheel]

Cancer was the catalyst for the treasure hunt as Forrest explains in his book. The sign of Cancer in the Zodiac is ruled by the moon, in particular a waxing crescent. In the Epilogue drawing of the woodsman we see 23 tree stumps and the figure is staring at a crescent moon ( Cancer's ruler ) however in the drawing it is a waning crescent, symbolic of time running out for the character who is gazing. The end is drawing nigh ( his death ). Why does Forrest reveal to us the numbers of his father's burial plot if not significant? Plot 4 Block 23.

Why does Forrest leave the letter D out of the word knowlege and the W out of his friend's name of Edard? Because in the alphabet D = 4 and W = 23.
On the moon is a DOVE, the symbol of Peace.. "Just take the chest and go in peace. In the list of constellations Dove is 24 the number of OMEGA, the end.

[trueyeti]

Spot on.

This has come up before (I've commented on it), and others have too. There is a lot of data in the comments regarding this (4/23) over the course of time. There are other themes like this in TTOTC too.

My comment is simply that the 9MH/Wyoming claims don't seem to have correlation with this theme (4/23)....or most/all of the other themes too.

Despite the stick and photos and claims....that is a serious problem for those who believe in the stick and stuff. Ultimately, that stick/those photos/those claims....lack cohesion in regards to the many themes running through TTOTC. Location - revealed as Wyoming - falls short on providing proof for a solve that is unassailable - which it must be. (We expect more "proof" is coming....e.g. book from Shilo). The architect's doing? There was that quote about legacy......and the other questionable/suspicious activity coming from the Forrest camp towards the end. (Dal's email....going towards Forrest's intention to end the chase).

That we generally don't hear adherents/believers of the 9MH/Wyoming addressing the lack of connections with the themes of TTOTC, including the 4 and 23.....demonstrates the lack of connection with that location and the themes that are running in TTOTC....IMO, the architects doing.

[Livinlifebig]

Cancer was the catalyst for the treasure hunt as Forrest explains in his book. The sign of Cancer in the Zodiac is ruled by the moon, in particular a waxing crescent. In the Epilogue drawing of the woodsman we see 23 tree stumps and the figure is staring at a crescent moon ( Cancer's ruler ) however in the drawing it is a waning crescent, symbolic of time running out for the character who is gazing. The end is drawing nigh ( his death ). Why does Forrest reveal to us the numbers of his father's burial plot if not significant? Plot 4 Block 23.

Why does Forrest leave the letter D out of the word knowlege and the W out of his friend's name of Edard? Because in the alphabet D = 4 and W = 23.
On the moon is a DOVE, the symbol of Peace.. "Just take the chest and go in peace. In the list of constellations Dove is 24 the number of OMEGA, the end.

1923 is the year the Gibbon Lunch Station permanently closed.

[Not4but242Walk]

"Yet when I looked him up on Google I discovered that he's buried..."

Wasn't f the likely executor for his father? He wrote it like it was unknown to him, or maybe just forgotten.

[Old blue]

One day I’ll go back to 4/23

[aqua807]

Possible interpretations of 4 23:
Alphabetically D V or D B C. DV could be Roman numeral 505. D B C in musical notes can be 2 7 1 or Re Ti Do.
4 2 3 as musical notes can be F D E or Fa Re Mi alphabetically that's 6 4 5.
4/23 could be April 23rd. 4/2/3 could be April 2nd, 1903. 4/23 could also be April 1923 or April 2023.
4:23 can be a time. 4:23 pm can be written 16:23.
A time variant could be 4 to 3, as in 4 minutes to 3 o'clock, or 2:56, which could be 14:56.
United States: the 4th and 23rd states alphabetically are AR and MN. The 4th and 23rd states to enter the union are GA and ME, which together forms the word "game". Throw in an "o" and you have a scrambled omega.
The 4th and 23rd letters of the Greek alphabet are delta and psi. But taking 4 and 23 as small "d" and small "w", the corresponding Greek letters would be delta and omega.
Alphabetically, the 4th and 23rd constellations are Aquarius the water-bearer and Circinus, the drawing compass. But if you alphabetize the abbreviations for the constellations, the 4th and 23rd are AQL Aquila the eagle and COL Columba the dove. (In unabbreviated alphabetical order, Aquila is the 5th constellation, Columba the 24th.)
In atomic symbols, 4 is Be and 23 is V. 2 is He and 3 is Li.

[Old blue]

4/23 D w ?

[Sherif Billy]

4/23 D w ?

Ole Blue...you of all people....
Psalm 23 verse 4:...Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
1f Billy

[trueyeti]

"Yet when I looked him up on Google I discovered that he's buried..."

Wasn't f the likely executor for his father? He wrote it like it was unknown to him, or maybe just forgotten.

Hillcrest Cemetery. 4/23. Buried. The chest was "where he wanted to die." Not necessarily a cemetery.

Multiply 4 x 23 = 92. On page 92 TTOTC the caption reads 4-fighters (aircraft)....there is a picture......2 of them are are lieutenants (1-Lt. Col, 1-Lt. Cmdr)....3-men in the pic. Put it together and you get 4 and 23. (4-fighters, 2 Lts., 3 -men). In the chapter, the canopy is mentioned, the trees....and more.

The canopy of stars relates to the canopy in the Forrest's story, the 4x23=92 takes you to page 92 and 4/23 is represented there....and this all links back to the drawing on pages 145-(21 stumps) and 146-(23 stumps)....best I can tell. IMO....the difference of 2....can be the 2-bars of the Captains insignia. Forrest was the 1 man in the picture with the 2-bar captain insignia.....

I haven't heard how Wyoming makes an accounting for the Hillcrest, the 4, or the 23, or the time Forrest mentioned something about...."near the top of a small hill." Have you?

[Shark]

4/23
4 2 3
D B Cooper

[Livinlifebig]

Hillcrest Cemetery. 4/23. Buried. The chest was "where he wanted to die." Not necessarily a cemetery.

Multiply 4 x 23 = 92. On page 92 TTOTC the caption reads 4-fighters (aircraft)....there is a picture......2 of them are are lieutenants (1-Lt. Col, 1-Lt. Cmdr)....3-men in the pic. Put it together and you get 4 and 23. (4-fighters, 2 Lts., 3 -men). In the chapter, the canopy is mentioned, the trees....and more.

The canopy of stars relates to the canopy in the Forrest's story, the 4x23=92 takes you to page 92 and 4/23 is represented there....and this all links back to the drawing on pages 145-(21 stumps) and 146-(23 stumps)....best I can tell. IMO....the difference of 2....can be the 2-bars of the Captains insignia. Forrest was the 1 man in the picture with the 2-bar captain insignia.....

I haven't heard how Wyoming makes an accounting for the Hillcrest, the 4, or the 23, or the time Forrest mentioned something about...."near the top of a small hill." Have you?

Near the top of Gibbon hill, but not all the way to the top was a warm water geyser, that was abruptly stopped by a mud slide in 1989 after the 88 fires..

[Livinlifebig]

https://youtu.be/NhBWXyIocq4

[Duster]

Waiting is hard to do, but it's worth the effort.

[trueyeti]

Near the top of Gibbon hill, but not all the way to the top was a warm water geyser, that was abruptly stopped by a mud slide in 1989 after the 88 fires..

That fulfills the requirement for that quote better than 9MH....

I wonder where the heck that quote about the "near the top of a small hill" is? Do you remember hearing/reading it? Maybe I should ask in a new thread.

Thing is that stick has been a wrench in the gear box so to speak. Readership and contributions have dropped off somewhat since it made an appearance. IMO....this is normal human psychology. I think it will pass and folks will come back. I already commented in that stick/9MH thread at the top of THOR....Lions and tigers and bears, oh my.....replica sticks, replica chests, replica shoes oh my. (The evidence is in that thread).

The hole in that place is not "at or near the top of a small hill." And so....that is a staged location/story.....replica stuff involved.

No evidence of a solve that answers the questions......a weak solve.....the architects intention? Perhaps so. Where is the small hill?

Your point about the hill defeats 9MH....all by itself.

The Roger Patterson Bigfoot film....was debunked....
The photo of Lock Ness Monster.....was debunked.....
The nook and 9MH.....is debunked......
It is a myth.....
You have to ask yourself why Forrest would do such a thing. Look at the events, Dal's email. Forrest saying "there is a way to know" if the chest has been recovered.....geeze....that other email from Dal that appeared recently by KPRO.....

Give me a break 9MH and photos.....
I have a photo of the actual chest on a hieroglyph out at Bisti (that is a picture)......and that is not debunked....it alone defeats the all the pictures of the chest released by Forrest/Jack/whatever......and it was taken in 2016....not 3-years after the recovery of the chest in 2023.

I will cause the chase to end and photograph the chest in-situ......there is misdirection in that very sentence. In-situ....means in place....that means "where and how I want to create the photo." Staged ending......

Wake Up Searchers.....Think! Forrest may have set this up to create a myth....and an aura. He is the architect....after all. Can't you think of reasons why? What did that other quote say....about "legacy?" Smoking gun much? A mystery and controversy is born.....and guarantees the mystery of the man, the myth, and the legend..... There are two treasure hunts....one before the recovery, and one after. The one is clean, while the other is dirty....

The pictures of 9MH changes nothing. The winning solve comes by way of proving location. WWWh....is the first clue sure, but where that first clue is.....is the most important thing - for that first clue. Horse in front of the cart...not the other way around.....Forrest said so...."where the first clue is." Folks have been stuck on WWWh....for over 10 years......when they should not have been. Location.....where, "WWWh," is......is the clue of location that must be figured out......then....there....at that place....is where the WWWh......is.

9MH.....the back up plan.....to cover the tracks. Motivation....2 can keep a secret if one of them is dead.....this chase is not over....not by a long shot.

Like I said....your finding defeats 9MH with the hill....hands down.

A rouse, red-herring, subterfuge.....there is not solve out there that Bisti can't defeat, let alone your hill.....at Gibbon Hill.....defeating 9MH.

The winning solve is still up for grabs people......don't believe the story that 9MH....is the winning solve.....it is debunked....

[trueyeti]

Someone PMd me that the Bigfoot film was not debunked. Well there you go. Someone has watched Mysterious Monsters, and the Legend of Boggy Creek.....and can't/won't let it go. Ingrained the myth, the works and magic. There is a difference between Subjectivity and Objectivity in the human mind and spirit. They may be on the same coin....but they are on different sides.

If you want to say that Bigfoot is real based on saying that the film is real. That is your conclusion. (Like 9MH). But if you want objectivity, then go and research the other side of the coin. There are terabytes of data that say otherwise. The question of objectivity and subjectivity is a human psychological question whose clear answer is often made murky by the myth's that we ascribe to. (Is it real, or is it Memorex?) There is a place where objectivity dwells.....you have to find it and it is not always easy....it is called living and life and experience.

The snake oil salesman comes to mind......don't drink it man.....it has mercury and lead in it. hahahahaha

Invest in a gas chromatograph.....it will render you the ingredients. Or else, you could try to test an elixir on yourself that you invented in the laboratory.....but that one might just turn you into a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde....