Day 1010

[trueyeti]

I’m not trying to side-step the issue concerning our missed date, I’m more trying to understand it. To be honest, I think the guy with the water truck caused that muddy mess in the first place. So rather than being considerate, I believe, since he was the perpetrator, he felt obliged to help. Believe me. There’s nothing like mud, replacing modern man’s asphalt, that will halt or mar a planned-date quicker. Who knows, maybe he did it intentionally. You know what? The more I consider it, I’m thinking he should be ashamed of himself… taking advantage of a poor helpless, warm-blooded, woman like me. Yep, just like Forrest’s poem, I’m worth the cold if you’re initially stood up for a date. As far as your “Bisti connection with Richard Wetherill, Byron Harvey, the turquoise bracelet, the Navajo (silversmith), and Brown”, I have to ask. Would it be alright if I merely acknowledge you’re correct, rather than recognize it? These relationship things take time, you know. Not to mention, I’m still puzzled by how things have gotten this deep, and I’m certain we both have many unanswered questions. On top of that, there’s no sense in rushing off to Mount Rushmore when there’s a slow path which leads to Valley Slowmoor, lol. The additional advantage is, we can stay on the asphalt path where there’s a minimal threat of danger… that is, excluding the occasionally rare horse and buggy… or the time-to-time random snake or two. Hey, the least you could do is admit it’s a heart-felt step forward when facing those demons.

Hey Suzy,
Uhhhmmm....Let's see how can all this get cleared up? hehehe...I appreciate "The Waterboy" story....hey ....I get it.... "he loves momma." Mud and all.

About the recognize/acknowledge thingy....I ask you a question to see if things get sunny....or else....more cloudy?

Do you "acknowledge" that SpongeBob SquarePants......lives in a Pineapple under the sea? Perhaps the question should be instead, "Who lives in a Pineapple under the sea?, because that would still allow you to acknowledge that SpongeBob's home is under the sea. See, Google says that the definition of "acknowledge" is - accept or admit the existence or truth of. It would seem to me that to "recognize" something is to accept or admit the existence or truth of that something that firstly must be "acknowledged." Google also says that the definition of the word "recognize" is - acknowledge the existence, validity, or legality of. The Recognize/acknowledge thingy is intertwined and entangled with their definitions.

Put it together and what do you get? - Recognize that your turtle shell is where you hang your hat, and acknowledge that your turtle shell is your home-sweet-home. Both recognize and acknowledge.....the home of Suzy....the turtle. Home....like the Pineapple under the sea for SpongeBob, and like the Bisti Badlands - where the bones of Brown make their home in a palaeontologic cemetery. May they rest....in peace.....Come to think of it....rest and go....are opposites....you know, it could easily be applied to, "Just take the chest and go in peace" to mean "Just take the chest and leave my bones.....may they rest in peace" or "rest in peace," or something like that anyway.....folks used to think about cemeteries......and didn't Forrest have "leave my bones" in an early edition of his poem?

If I'm confusing you and the skies are cloudy all day, it is not my intention to make your brown eyes blue....or to stand you up if we make dinner plans....

If you can accept that the definitions of acknowledge and recognize are "intertwined," then you have met those "said" conditions.....now the only thing that is left....is to make a day.....PM me for da details....

One more thing....the word "intertwined" is related to the word "entangled" in the same way that the words "recognition" and "acknowledge" are. I point this out simply to say that Brown is intertwined with the Bisti Badlands - where Richard Wetherill, Byron Harvey, the turquoise bracelet, and the Navajo (Silversmith) are entangled together with Brown.....out there....."in there".....in the cemetery......Cheers.

[jan_v60]

trueyeti
You wrote: You must first acknowledge and recognize the that Bisti has connection with Richard Wetherill, Byron Harvey, turquoise bracelet, the Navajo (silversmith),

But since when Wetherill, Harvey, the bracelet, the Navajo silversmith have acquired even the smallest undeniable importance for solving the poem?
For you, those are hints that fit with your Bisti Solution. But Forrest talked about hundreds of other persons, hundreds of other objects, also.
If you like to answer, please keep it short.

[Suzy]

Hey Suzy,
Uhhhmmm....Let's see how can all this get cleared up? hehehe...I appreciate "The Waterboy" story....hey ....I get it.... "he loves momma." Mud and all.

About the recognize/acknowledge thingy....I ask you a question to see if things get sunny....or else....more cloudy?

Do you "acknowledge" that SpongeBob SquarePants......lives in a Pineapple under the sea? Perhaps the question should be instead, "Who lives in a Pineapple under the sea?, because that would still allow you to acknowledge that SpongeBob's home is under the sea. See, Google says that the definition of "acknowledge" is - accept or admit the existence or truth of. It would seem to me that to "recognize" something is to accept or admit the existence or truth of that something that firstly must be "acknowledged." Google also says that the definition of the word "recognize" is - acknowledge the existence, validity, or legality of. The Recognize/acknowledge thingy is intertwined and entangled with their definitions.

Put it together and what do you get? - Recognize that your turtle shell is where you hang your hat, and acknowledge that your turtle shell is your home-sweet-home. Both recognize and acknowledge.....the home of Suzy....the turtle. Home....like the Pineapple under the sea for SpongeBob, and like the Bisti Badlands - where the bones of Brown make their home in a palaeontologic cemetery. May they rest....in peace.....Come to think of it....rest and go....are opposites....you know, it could easily be applied to, "Just take the chest and go in peace" to mean "Just take the chest and leave my bones.....may they rest in peace" or "rest in peace," or something like that anyway.....folks used to think about cemeteries......and didn't Forrest have "leave my bones" in an early edition of his poem?

If I'm confusing you and the skies are cloudy all day, it is not my intention to make your brown eyes blue....or to stand you up if we make dinner plans....

If you can accept that the definitions of acknowledge and recognize are "intertwined," then you have met those "said" conditions.....now the only thing that is left....is to make a day.....PM me for da details....

One more thing....the word "intertwined" is related to the word "entangled" in the same way that the words "recognition" and "acknowledge" are. I point this out simply to say that Brown is intertwined with the Bisti Badlands - where Richard Wetherill, Byron Harvey, the turquoise bracelet, and the Navajo (Silversmith) are entangled together with Brown.....out there....."in there".....in the cemetery......Cheers.

Okay, Mr. Yeti. I’ll accept your terms… and yes, 100%! It may be a bit twisted, as your solve commands my head to do somersaults, but you’ve literally bare armed me into a confession. Richard Wetherill, Byron Harvey, the turquoise bracelet, and your Indian thing seems to fit perfectly, but there’s only one problem. Mr. Brown could never fit in with this, unless the answer is literally IN the poem. If so, that would almost equate to subterfuge. Then I’d have to ask the question, would Forrest really do this? Would he expect someone to figure out the solve, when subterfuge came into play? If this were the case, then it would also designate that there’s a certain abbreviation being used - of which has rarely, to never, been discussed here on Thor… at least as far as I know. Yes, this would be clever, but did Forrest really intend his solve to be interpreted this way? On the other hand, if this ISN’T how Brown fits in, then I’m completely baffled. Yep, and the only way we might ever resolve our dispute, and where you might convince me of your solve, would be to grab some peyote, hide out under some Morrocan Argania Tree - which housed goats, and smoke-um big heaping-full peace pipe. Hey, how else did you expect me to get Forrest's love for native art in there?

[trueyeti]

trueyeti
You wrote: You must first acknowledge and recognize the that Bisti has connection with Richard Wetherill, Byron Harvey, turquoise bracelet, the Navajo (silversmith),

But since when Wetherill, Harvey, the bracelet, the Navajo silversmith have acquired even the smallest undeniable importance for solving the poem?
For you, those are hints that fit with your Bisti Solution. But Forrest talked about hundreds of other persons, hundreds of other objects, also.
If you like to answer, please keep it short.

Hey jan,
These things are in the chapter "Gold and More." They are the context of the treasure itself. Searchers difficulty in recognizing and acknowledging these things is a problem of semantics.....for them.

The sentence before the poem: "So I wrote a poem containing nine clues that if followed precisely, will lead to the end of my rainbow and the treasure." Preceding this sentence, Forrest describes "the treasure" in the chapter. The chapter is "Gold and More." The "More" in the title infers that there is more than just the poem. If Bessie, or ropes, or green olives, or Yellowstone, had appeared within the chapter, then they would have been considered the "More" in the chapter "Gold and More." But those things were not specifically mentioned in the context of the treasure. Within the context of the treasure, Forrest writes about Richard, Byron, Navajo, bracelet, Brown....they are all linked together....because "Gold" is the treasure, and the "More" are these things that "will lead you to the end of my rainbow and the treasure." (Linking to Brown in the poem).

It is a semantics problem jan. I recall that 2019 YouTube interview with Douglas Preston......Forrest mentions Richard, Byron, Navajo, and bracelet all.....once again. Then he elaborated on Richard and Byron. The semantics problem regarding the context of the treasure......is like a riddle itself. The individual person needs to consider that the "More" in the title's chapter are the things that he wrote about regarding the contents of the treasure and if they don't.....well then, back to square one....lost in the labyrinth. Working out the semantics in this way....you will have what the definition of semantics is: the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning....And then you will have the meaning of "and More" of Richard, Byron, Navajo, bracelet.....and Brown, the "Gold." You will have the semantics of "Gold and More" hammered out......and it will show you....Bisti. That is the only place where these things Marry a Map.

Working out the riddle with "Brown" as the center piece for the poem, the meaning of Forrest's semantics of trickery, are logically determined to the locality of Bisti. TTOTC is a riddle of semantics after all. Cheers.

[trueyeti]

Okay, Mr. Yeti. I’ll accept your terms… and yes, 100%! It may be a bit twisted, as your solve commands my head to do somersaults, but you’ve literally bare armed me into a confession. Richard Wetherill, Byron Harvey, the turquoise bracelet, and your Indian thing seems to fit perfectly, but there’s only one problem. Mr. Brown could never fit in with this, unless the answer is literally IN the poem. If so, that would almost equate to subterfuge. Then I’d have to ask the question, would Forrest really do this? Would he expect someone to figure out the solve, when subterfuge came into play? If this were the case, then it would also designate that there’s a certain abbreviation being used - of which has rarely, to never, been discussed here on Thor… at least as far as I know. Yes, this would be clever, but did Forrest really intend his solve to be interpreted this way? On the other hand, if this ISN’T how Brown fits in, then I’m completely baffled. Yep, and the only way we might ever resolve our dispute, and where you might convince me of your solve, would be to grab some peyote, hide out under some Morrocan Argania Tree - which housed goats, and smoke-um big heaping-full peace pipe. Hey, how else did you expect me to get Forrest's love for native art in there?

Hey Suzy,
How eloquent all.

Regarding the "Brown" link.....I Googled, "Brown, New Mexico," and found a dinosaur that was discovered and named after the finder.....Barnum Brown. I read his paleontological paper, did my own research, and formulated a BOTG trip to Bisti. The paleo paper said that the excavation site was less than a mile from Richard Wetherill's Ojo Alamo store. In my studies I found that paleontologists named the excavation site the "Barnum Brown Amphitheater." For me....that spot was good enough for me to understand that the line "Put in below the home of Brown" means a specific "spot." From there I formulated a BOTG trip using what I deemed as "the 9-Clues" in the poem....to make my way into the Badlands (From there it's no place for the meek).....following the poem alone. But IMO, "Brown" is much more than just that spot. The line of "Put in below the home of Brown" is much more than where the bones/home of Brown is. From what I've found out there, Brown....is not only that spot, but also plays other roles as well. For example, at the monolith titled "DICK," I applied "I give you title to the gold" with the interpretation to substitute the I with a U....rendering "DUCK." That is the duck billed dinosaur known as "Brown." So, IMO...Forrest plays not only in the poem and writing and interviews....he also plays out there in the Badlands too. hahaha...hope that clears things up a bit....we smokem peace pipe....Cheers.

[Suzy]

Hey Suzy,
How eloquent all.

Regarding the "Brown" link.....I Googled, "Brown, New Mexico," and found a dinosaur that was discovered and named after the finder.....Barnum Brown. I read his paleontological paper, did my own research, and formulated a BOTG trip to Bisti. The paleo paper said that the excavation site was less than a mile from Richard Wetherill's Ojo Alamo store. In my studies I found that paleontologists named the excavation site the "Barnum Brown Amphitheater." For me....that spot was good enough for me to understand that the line "Put in below the home of Brown" means a specific "spot." From there I formulated a BOTG trip using what I deemed as "the 9-Clues" in the poem....to make my way into the Badlands (From there it's no place for the meek).....following the poem alone. But IMO, "Brown" is much more than just that spot. The line of "Put in below the home of Brown" is much more than where the bones/home of Brown is. From what I've found out there, Brown....is not only that spot, but also plays other roles as well. For example, at the monolith titled "DICK," I applied "I give you title to the gold" with the interpretation to substitute the I with a U....rendering "DUCK." That is the duck billed dinosaur known as "Brown." So, IMO...Forrest plays not only in the poem and writing and interviews....he also plays out there in the Badlands too. hahaha...hope that clears things up a bit....we smokem peace pipe....Cheers.

My dearest Yeti, I thank you for your reply and detailed message. Let me emphatically state, it's always a pleasure to talk with you. So regardless of how we might argue, I always admire your round-a-bout way of putting things way out there, yet eventually hitting the core target without fully explaining it. So yes, I'll be the first to admit, them bouts are the fun part of talking with you. And yes, that is "whether or not" I eventually ever get a dinner date with you. The thing is, I think there's a much simpler way of solving for Brown, of which we never really touched on. That simpler part equates to the Bronze Chest. Yep, you can lead a horse to water, show him it's there, and even splash some of that water in his face, but you could never make him drink it if he's too stubborn to do so. But this ideology (or lack of it, as the case may be ) not only applies towards animals, it also applies directly towards man. Man can be one of the most stubborn animals on and earth (I guess that's how one of our political parties originated, lol), and is often recognized as such when referring to the well-known adage "not able to see the Forrest for the trees". As in the early gold rush days of this great country, I'm sure you'll also remember the familiar expression "California or Bust". Yep, stubbornness at its best. And yep, you could shoot an arrow right through the heart of the matter and hit the target, but that still doesn't designate that a person will open their eyes to see the "Gold and More . . ."! By now, you've probably guessed I'm taking the long way around concerning an easy explanation. But in mirroring your reflections on a solve, I thought I'd include every dental detail imaginable. The reason for this is, not only, to make jawing the chewings easier, but to keep from having to go to the dentist in the event we don't enjoy brushing our teeth. So, the end result is simple. If you can see through the Brown Puffs of the nearby Magic Dragon, you might also be able to see we're already in the process of smokin' some pretty hot ingredients included in the Bronze Chest, of which Forrest failed to disclose visually . . . albeit in a round-a-bout manner.

[Duster]

I found the treasure map. Now I'm all blue like Forrest's belt buckle.

[trueyeti]

My dearest Yeti, I thank you for your reply and detailed message. Let me emphatically state, it's always a pleasure to talk with you. So regardless of how we might argue, I always admire your round-a-bout way of putting things way out there, yet eventually hitting the core target without fully explaining it. So yes, I'll be the first to admit, them bouts are the fun part of talking with you. And yes, that is "whether or not" I eventually ever get a dinner date with you. The thing is, I think there's a much simpler way of solving for Brown, of which we never really touched on. That simpler part equates to the Bronze Chest. Yep, you can lead a horse to water, show him it's there, and even splash some of that water in his face, but you could never make him drink it if he's too stubborn to do so. But this ideology (or lack of it, as the case may be ) not only applies towards animals, it also applies directly towards man. Man can be one of the most stubborn animals on and earth (I guess that's how one of our political parties originated, lol), and is often recognized as such when referring to the well-known adage "not able to see the Forrest for the trees". As in the early gold rush days of this great country, I'm sure you'll also remember the familiar expression "California or Bust". Yep, stubbornness at its best. And yep, you could shoot an arrow right through the heart of the matter and hit the target, but that still doesn't designate that a person will open their eyes to see the "Gold and More . . ."! By now, you've probably guessed I'm taking the long way around concerning an easy explanation. But in mirroring your reflections on a solve, I thought I'd include every dental detail imaginable. The reason for this is, not only, to make jawing the chewings easier, but to keep from having to go to the dentist in the event we don't enjoy brushing our teeth. So, the end result is simple. If you can see through the Brown Puffs of the nearby Magic Dragon, you might also be able to see we're already in the process of smokin' some pretty hot ingredients included in the Bronze Chest, of which Forrest failed to disclose visually . . . albeit in a round-a-bout manner.

Hey Suzy,
"Your effort will be worth the cold" to me at Bisti means the bronze metal "US General Land Office Survey marker" that is within 200 feet of the grove of juniper trees in the shape of an arrow (location of chest). Bronze is "cold" to the touch, and the bronze marker says, "$250.00 Penalty for Removal." This connotes a value as in "will be worth." So there....is the bronze marker within 200 feet of the "bronze chest," with the word "General" on it....as in Forrest's statement, Let’s coin a new phrase. You can’t have a “correct solve” unless you can knowingly go to within several steps of the treasure chest. Otherwise you have a “general solve.” What do you think? f …

Yet....the bronze to bronze.....are "several steps" - 200 feet.....and the chest itself was buried within 10 to 15 feet of a tract of land belonging to the Navajo Nation. As in "several steps." Cheers.

[Suzy]

Hey Suzy,
"Your effort will be worth the cold" to me at Bisti means the bronze metal "US General Land Office Survey marker" that is within 200 feet of the grove of juniper trees in the shape of an arrow (location of chest). Bronze is "cold" to the touch, and the bronze marker says, "$250.00 Penalty for Removal." This connotes a value as in "will be worth." So there....is the bronze marker within 200 feet of the "bronze chest," with the word "General" on it....as in Forrest's statement, Let’s coin a new phrase. You can’t have a “correct solve” unless you can knowingly go to within several steps of the treasure chest. Otherwise you have a “general solve.” What do you think? f …

Yet....the bronze to bronze.....are "several steps" - 200 feet.....and the chest itself was buried within 10 to 15 feet of a tract of land belonging to the Navajo Nation. As in "several steps." Cheers.

Okay, well our relationship must be taking an upswing for the better. At least, with your mention of the arrowhead thing, I don't feel like you're lyin' quite as much, or draggin' out some incredibly bizarre story that few people can believe. With your mention of the arrowhead, I take it that it must have belonged to the Navajo nation in order to fit in with Forrest's story. If so, I wonder if they can still claim rights to it as lost property . . . you know, being it's so close to their land. After all, it is within shooting range. Besides, I'd hate for someone to get shot or scalped while they're out there.

[trueyeti]

Hey Suzy,
Link below to Google Maps to location of said "Navajo" and "Arrowhead." Toggle the button in lower left to see satellite versus land designation. The border of the Navajo Nations is within 10 to 15 feet of the hidey hole. Attached is an image that labels, the site of "bronze" chest, "bronze" marker, the "warm waters/pool of water," the Navajo Nations land, the distance between the marker and the hidey hole. Cheers.

Link to Google Maps (toggle "layers" in the lower left it to see Navajo border).
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3214.../data=!3m1!1e3

[Suzy]

Hey Suzy,
Link below to Google Maps to location of said "Navajo" and "Arrowhead." Toggle the button in lower left to see satellite versus land designation. The border of the Navajo Nations is within 10 to 15 feet of the hidey hole. Attached is an image that labels, the site of "bronze" chest, "bronze" marker, the "warm waters/pool of water," the Navajo Nations land, the distance between the marker and the hidey hole. Cheers.

Link to Google Maps (toggle "layers" in the lower left it to see Navajo border).
https://www.google.com/maps/@36.3214.../data=!3m1!1e3

Oh . . . yep, I can see your angle on that layer thing. I don't see the Arrowhead though. Is the Arrow that the corner thingy when I switch and toggle views? . . . and it looks like your lines are slightly off from your map. Is the pool of water the size of a single tree? Oh well, who knows? I'm completely confused when it comes to these things. The good news is, if the treasure isn't there, we can probably go digging up stegosaurus bones.

P.S. Thanks for telling me how to use that map, I'd never have figured it out. Yep, I'm lost to such modern conveniences as that. That's probably why I haven't found the treasure yet.

[trueyeti]

Oh . . . yep, I can see your angle on that layer thing. I don't see the Arrowhead though. Is the Arrow that the corner thingy when I switch and toggle views? . . . and it looks like your lines are slightly off from your map. Is the pool of water the size of a single tree? Oh well, who knows? I'm completely confused when it comes to these things. The good news is, if the treasure isn't there, we can probably go digging up stegosaurus bones.

P.S. Thanks for telling me how to use that map, I'd never have figured it out. Yep, I'm lost to such modern conveniences as that. That's probably why I haven't found the treasure yet.

Hey Suzy,
The treasure was there...IMO.... The attached image shows the green arrow that is formed by the grove of juniper trees. The grove of trees are the arrow. It is pointing to the right. I made the visual representation as helpful as I could....If you can't see it then you are a turtle nerd. Cheers.

[Suzy]

Hey Suzy,
The treasure was there...IMO.... The attached image shows the green arrow that is formed by the grove of juniper trees. The grove of trees are the arrow. It is pointing to the right. I made the visual representation as helpful as I could....If you can't see it then you are a turtle nerd. Cheers.

I must be a turtle nerd then, because I can't see green and I can't see those arrows. The only thing I can see is either a profile of Forrest Fenn with his nose sticking up, or a Big Foot, possibly created by a Yeti. Oh, I get it! That was you, wasn't it?

[trueyeti]

I must be a turtle nerd then, because I can't see green and I can't see those arrows. The only thing I can see is either a profile of Forrest Fenn with his nose sticking up, or a Big Foot, possibly created by a Yeti. Oh, I get it! That was you, wasn't it?

Hey Suzy,
Link below for a shopping day that you might need? The link is an opportunity to own it.....at least the shirt that is...…"Turtle Nerd." Cheers.
https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/...58082914.FB110

[Suzy]

Hey Suzy,
Link below for a shopping day that you might need? The link is an opportunity to own it.....at least the shirt that is...…"Turtle Nerd." Cheers.
https://www.redbubble.com/i/t-shirt/...58082914.FB110

Wow! An oppornutity to own! Thanks Mr. Yeti! I found my newt avatar. Yep it exposes the real me! Plus, I've got matching glasses, just like Moody! And it's by "Butterfly Snow", none the less! Could this be really happening?