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  • #16
    Originally posted by Goldilocks View Post
    starwheel thanks for explaining. The suggestion of a substitution cipher in the preface isn't enough for me. I'm trying to open my mind up to other possibilities but for me I need to see it in the poem. That doesn't mean that you are wrong, I'm just not seeing it.
    Goldilocks Ok! So let's look at the extra Scrapbook added to the revised edition of OUAW, Dizzy Dean, what hits you in the face is the large image of TIME. Fenn mentions Time magazine firstly in the chapter 'Important Literature' and here he reiterates the word. If you take it to mean the clock face then it is divided into 12 parts just like the Zodiac Wheel is. This to me is part of the puzzle and to use it we take the hint from the book of Forrest's missing ball of string, a crime that goes unsolved, I think the hint here is to things missing in the poem and the book.
    Firstly we know that X is missing in the poem, X stands for 10 in Roman numerals on a clock face. In the book stories 5 colors of the rainbow can be discovered, but no Indigo or Violet, which begin with I and V and side by side are IV the Roman numeral for 4. These explain why he refers to Salinger, who he claims he had not heard of, very personally as just JD. And J = 10 and D = 4 which match the missing.

    INDIGO and VIOLET are colors 6 and 7 in the rainbow, and in Stanza 1 of the poem Lines 2 and 3 have syllable counts of 6 and 7. A distinct correlation with the missing colors. Numbers 10 and 4 oppose each other on the clock face literally halving it, now compare this to the Zodiac Wheel and you will see that these positions are 12 and 6, and put side by side are 126 the number of the word TREASURES.
    However these alone do not produce anything of interest until you quarter the clock face, to do this you use 1 and 7, whilst on the Zodiac Wheel these relate to 9 and 3. Notice now where the clock face numbers appear on the Zodiac Wheel. You should see 10 at North, 4 at South, 1 at West and 7 at East. Back to the clock face you see 12 North, 6 South, 9 West and 3 East. On both clock face and Zodiac Wheel these are the Cardinal points of a compass, they are the Cardinal signs of the Zodiac.

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    Does it not prove something? In the 'Dizzy Dean' scrapbook why does he only mention the St. Louis CARDINALS and not the other teams he played for? Was it to highlight the word CARDINALS? If the blaze was a circle where would you dig?
    Last edited by starwheel; 03-11-2023, 03:40 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by kpro View Post
      Day 1,007 since the tc was announced retrieved and the promise of epicness and fun was to come. Be patient search friends.
      kpro
      And how many extra days are included in your countdown? More than 10? More than 100? More than 1000 for your promise of epicness to be fulfilled? Why do you think stated that this promise indeed exists? And who made the promise?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by jan_v60 View Post
        kpro
        And how many extra days are included in your countdown? More than 10? More than 100? More than 1000 for your promise of epicness to be fulfilled? Why do you think stated that this promise indeed exists? And who made the promise?
        Maybe we’re unknowingly waiting for the real finder to pull his head out and finish the thing already lol.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by kpro View Post
          Day 1,007 since the tc was announced retrieved and the promise of epicness and fun was to come. Be patient search friends.
          Forrest had said a list of methods that won't help someone solve the clues in the poem. He had said everything needed to solve the clues is in the poem. He had also said that there are hints "sprinkled" in his book; that they were not purposefully placed , and he noticed them sprinkles after he wrote the book. The words in the poem are elementary enough that a kid could read it. The hidden gem in of the poem is in the Architecture of the poem, in my opinion. Forrest had said he felt like an architect in writing the poem. To me, that was a clue. I call Forrest's "Architecture" -A Code. To build a build a house , etc, the architect, builders etc, have to follow a "Building Code". Forrest was the architect and built the poem "to Code"; his Code. Forrest has his own Code and he follows it in all his writings. I think I discover, cracked, his Code. It's in the Omega Symbol. I call it Code 55 & 75. They are similar but distinct in each their pattern. I could say it's two codes but to me it's really just the same Code using a mirror in style usage; he toggles it in such that way. Why "55" & "75"? It's the numbers I see that are in form as the Omega Symbol, including it being mirrored.

          So, in the post Find photos with FF & Jack at the table with some of the Chest contents, I saw something. Forrest place one last little clue via his Code in them pictures; one picture in particular. See the attached pictures. I highlighted the placement of the Code by circling it. It's in Brail, the Brail on the Gold Mirror; it is in two sets, and you have to decode it. I'll show you how the code in brail works and you then figure it out if you want to. How it works for this one is , is you have count each of the two sets of brail. You will have two sets of double digits numbers. I know the brail is not perfectly clear, but it's doable. The clue is in them numbers and them numbers tell me something and maybe it'll tell you something too. I dunno if it will for anyone , but sure did for me based on FF's Code. You have to put 2&2 together.

          Perhaps youll see something I don't see. But I believe the answer was his last clue.

          Hot chocolate is worth the cold.


          I think the ending will be better and everyone will feel like a winner.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Alsetenash View Post

            Forrest had said a list of methods that won't help someone solve the clues in the poem. He had said everything needed to solve the clues is in the poem. He had also said that there are hints "sprinkled" in his book; that they were not purposefully placed , and he noticed them sprinkles after he wrote the book. The words in the poem are elementary enough that a kid could read it. The hidden gem in of the poem is in the Architecture of the poem, in my opinion. Forrest had said he felt like an architect in writing the poem. To me, that was a clue. I call Forrest's "Architecture" -A Code. To build a build a house , etc, the architect, builders etc, have to follow a "Building Code". Forrest was the architect and built the poem "to Code"; his Code. Forrest has his own Code and he follows it in all his writings. I think I discover, cracked, his Code. It's in the Omega Symbol. I call it Code 55 & 75. They are similar but distinct in each their pattern. I could say it's two codes but to me it's really just the same Code using a mirror in style usage; he toggles it in such that way. Why "55" & "75"? It's the numbers I see that are in form as the Omega Symbol, including it being mirrored.

            So, in the post Find photos with FF & Jack at the table with some of the Chest contents, I saw something. Forrest place one last little clue via his Code in them pictures; one picture in particular. See the attached pictures. I highlighted the placement of the Code by circling it. It's in Brail, the Brail on the Gold Mirror; it is in two sets, and you have to decode it. I'll show you how the code in brail works and you then figure it out if you want to. How it works for this one is , is you have count each of the two sets of brail. You will have two sets of double digits numbers. I know the brail is not perfectly clear, but it's doable. The clue is in them numbers and them numbers tell me something and maybe it'll tell you something too. I dunno if it will for anyone , but sure did for me based on FF's Code. You have to put 2&2 together.

            Perhaps youll see something I don't see. But I believe the answer was his last clue.

            Hot chocolate is worth the cold.


            I think the ending will be better and everyone will feel like a winner.

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            Alsetenash I think you made a misquote in here, Forrest said: "I felt like an architect DRAWING that poem", quite a difference. It suggests he drew the poem on the map. Architects use Angles in their drawings.

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            • #21
              Forrest told us that someone would figure it out and quietly walk to it while everyone else had thumbs up thier butts declaring things they had no knowledge of.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by starwheel View Post

                Alsetenash I think you made a misquote in here, Forrest said: "I felt like an architect DRAWING that poem", quite a difference. It suggests he drew the poem on the map. Architects use Angles in their drawings.
                Yes, that is the correct quote -he felt like an architect drawing the poem. Because he drew the "Blaze" that is in the poem by writing 166 words. Writing is drawing.
                "The end is ever drawing nigh;......". By at the end of the poem, he drew the Blaze......"if you've been wise and found the blaze, look quickly down, your quest to cease". Reading/writing/drawing the poem from top to bottom , if you are wise you'll see the blaze. Writing a letter is drawing, writing a word is drawing; the total combined words in the poem draw something.

                Everything you need to find/use the map is in the poem. Then also, in his book there is a hint(s) "sprinkled" within it to help with the clues. An architect draws, writes and uses numbers to create a blueprint.



                In my opinion of course.
                Last edited by Alsetenash; 03-12-2023, 09:14 AM.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Alsetenash View Post

                  Forrest had said a list of methods that won't help someone solve the clues in the poem. He had said everything needed to solve the clues is in the poem. He had also said that there are hints "sprinkled" in his book; that they were not purposefully placed , and he noticed them sprinkles after he wrote the book. The words in the poem are elementary enough that a kid could read it. The hidden gem in of the poem is in the Architecture of the poem, in my opinion. Forrest had said he felt like an architect in writing the poem. To me, that was a clue. I call Forrest's "Architecture" -A Code. To build a build a house , etc, the architect, builders etc, have to follow a "Building Code". Forrest was the architect and built the poem "to Code"; his Code. Forrest has his own Code and he follows it in all his writings. I think I discover, cracked, his Code. It's in the Omega Symbol. I call it Code 55 & 75. They are similar but distinct in each their pattern. I could say it's two codes but to me it's really just the same Code using a mirror in style usage; he toggles it in such that way. Why "55" & "75"? It's the numbers I see that are in form as the Omega Symbol, including it being mirrored.

                  So, in the post Find photos with FF & Jack at the table with some of the Chest contents, I saw something. Forrest place one last little clue via his Code in them pictures; one picture in particular. See the attached pictures. I highlighted the placement of the Code by circling it. It's in Brail, the Brail on the Gold Mirror; it is in two sets, and you have to decode it. I'll show you how the code in brail works and you then figure it out if you want to. How it works for this one is , is you have count each of the two sets of brail. You will have two sets of double digits numbers. I know the brail is not perfectly clear, but it's doable. The clue is in them numbers and them numbers tell me something and maybe it'll tell you something too. I dunno if it will for anyone , but sure did for me based on FF's Code. You have to put 2&2 together.

                  Perhaps youll see something I don't see. But I believe the answer was his last clue.

                  Hot chocolate is worth the cold.


                  I think the ending will be better and everyone will feel like a winner.

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                  You stated he listed methods on how not to solve his poem…then you immediately proceed to use one of the methods he says will NOT help in solving the poem. What am I missing here ?

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Misconstrued View Post

                    You stated he listed methods on how not to solve his poem…then you immediately proceed to use one of the methods he says will NOT help in solving the poem. What am I missing here ?
                    What "method" did I use the he said not to use? Are you referring to what I said is his code? What I said above as for his "Code" is based on the Omega Symbol-the numbers. That is not necessary to solve the poem in practice nor discovering. That would be for post solution if the poem that I discovered his code concatenance process. That's for hits hints/clues outside the poem in his writings. I was still giving hints and clues after his books. Such as his SB's , vignettes , interviews etc. My solution to the poem was just using the poem and I read a couple of things from in his books that were enough for me .

                    Heres an example. In a vignette about some old Indian dolls. The name of it escapes my memory at the moment. It was about how they made black paint from Corn smut.

                    Corn smut:
                    "Corn smut is a plant disease caused by the pathogenic fungus Ustilago maydis". You can see "you still a go this May". But the "Code" hint is in "Maydis" as in Mayfly. Mayfly's live for years in the water before they become adults and fly around in a swarm and die after only one or two days , once they are an adult . Good bait for flyfishing, good for trout fishing. But that's a lead in clue if you know is code. It actually leads to another member of the family of these insects:

                    "Mayflies are aquatic insects belonging to the order Ephemeroptera. This order is part of an ancient group of insects termed the Palaeoptera, which also contains dragonflies and damselflies."

                    The poem totaling 166 words draws a Dragonfly once you know what and how to use his Code for outside the poem because he was giving hints/clues. That is why the Dragon Bracelet is important . The Dragon Bracelet is front and centre of the first picture FF showed at the creation of TTOTC . The Dragon Bracelet is also in the "Find" pictures the stuff shown above in my post.

                    Forrest misspelled Wetherill's name in his book. There are two grave stones at Wetherill's grave. One with his name spelt correctly and the one other is spelled incorrectly. Same as in his book. As you can see in the picture I provided , FF has his arm showing the turquoise Bracelet. There is also the Dragon Bracelet , so that is two Bracelets, right?

                    It's not the turquoise bracelet that's important here, it's the Dragon Bracelet.

                    Understand?

                    In my opinion

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                    • #25
                      gonna have to wait 7 years

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Alsetenash View Post

                        What "method" did I use the he said not to use? Are you referring to what I said is his code? What I said above as for his "Code" is based on the Omega Symbol-the numbers. That is not necessary to solve the poem in practice nor discovering. That would be for post solution if the poem that I discovered his code concatenance process. That's for hits hints/clues outside the poem in his writings. I was still giving hints and clues after his books. Such as his SB's , vignettes , interviews etc. My solution to the poem was just using the poem and I read a couple of things from in his books that were enough for me .

                        Heres an example. In a vignette about some old Indian dolls. The name of it escapes my memory at the moment. It was about how they made black paint from Corn smut.

                        Corn smut:
                        "Corn smut is a plant disease caused by the pathogenic fungus Ustilago maydis". You can see "you still a go this May". But the "Code" hint is in "Maydis" as in Mayfly. Mayfly's live for years in the water before they become adults and fly around in a swarm and die after only one or two days , once they are an adult . Good bait for flyfishing, good for trout fishing. But that's a lead in clue if you know is code. It actually leads to another member of the family of these insects:

                        "Mayflies are aquatic insects belonging to the order Ephemeroptera. This order is part of an ancient group of insects termed the Palaeoptera, which also contains dragonflies and damselflies."

                        The poem totaling 166 words draws a Dragonfly once you know what and how to use his Code for outside the poem because he was giving hints/clues. That is why the Dragon Bracelet is important . The Dragon Bracelet is front and centre of the first picture FF showed at the creation of TTOTC . The Dragon Bracelet is also in the "Find" pictures the stuff shown above in my post.

                        Forrest misspelled Wetherill's name in his book. There are two grave stones at Wetherill's grave. One with his name spelt correctly and the one other is spelled incorrectly. Same as in his book. As you can see in the picture I provided , FF has his arm showing the turquoise Bracelet. There is also the Dragon Bracelet , so that is two Bracelets, right?

                        It's not the turquoise bracelet that's important here, it's the Dragon Bracelet.

                        Understand?

                        In my opinion
                        Hey Alse,
                        Where are them there gravestones anyway? Answer the question and show the world right here and right now....and if you are right, then I'll show you a picture of a picture.....a hieroglyph with the initials "ES" scratched onto the rock face....next to another one that shows a depiction of the treasure chest, right next to another one that reads "Budweiser IX11," also known as "Beer 911" as in "LeRoy." I'm sorry.....what were you saying? Cheers.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by jan_v60 View Post
                          kpro
                          And how many extra days are included in your countdown? More than 10? More than 100? More than 1000 for your promise of epicness to be fulfilled? Why do you think stated that this promise indeed exists? And who made the promise?
                          It is a count up not a count down clock.

                          I did not promise fun and epicness, that was Shiloh.
                          “Positivity triumphs over negativity” - famous quote by the famous Cowlazars 2018

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by trueyeti View Post

                            Hey Alse,
                            Where are them there gravestones anyway? Answer the question and show the world right here and right now....and if you are right, then I'll show you a picture of a picture.....a hieroglyph with the initials "ES" scratched onto the rock face....next to another one that shows a depiction of the treasure chest, right next to another one that reads "Budweiser IX11," also known as "Beer 911" as in "LeRoy." I'm sorry.....what were you saying? Cheers.
                            Sure. Here ya go, it's not a "depiction" though:
                            Describes the murder of Richard Wetherill from several viewpoints including an eye witness account.


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                            • #29
                              I found that word that wins.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by starwheel View Post

                                Zapster You know why there will never be anymore info from the family, lawyers, Chase YouTube celebs and such? None of these have anything to give out, that is why, because none of them know the solution to the poem which is still out there to be solved. Forrest left a closing clue in the first found photo of the chest which had been manipulated by the placing of the stick and the key.
                                The stick which Jack said must have fallen in there is a total lie, if true then how come it has the letters T I I placed on it? These letters add up to 38 which is the sum total of the word ALPHA and below it is the KEY which adds up to the sum total of the word OMEGA.
                                If Forrest had ever breathed a word a spoken word about the rainbow then everyone would have been all over this like a rash, however a long time seeker of the solution mentions it and provides information to back it up and it is totally ignored. No one as far as I know has followed up on this in any depth, but I have.
                                The reason for ALPHA and OMEGA can be proved in the Zodiac Wheel.
                                The Alpha and Omega phrase from the Bible book of REVELATION provides the way to read it. We are looking for Forrest's SECRET where? REVELATION means to reveal something that was SECRET.
                                Forrest even mentions his secret again when he says: "Two can keep a SECRET if one of them is dead.
                                So who knows the secret? Jack obviously doesn’t yet Forrest stated the poem was solved. Maybe that photo was to help them finally finish the task.

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