Why did Forrest play with the Omegas in OUAW?

[jan_v60]

Why?

[Spoon]

Why?

Is that question to me?

[Not4but242Walk]

That is interesting. If the omegas were not necessary anymore in the colophon of the first edition of OUAW, that could mean the omegas (or their meaning) were hidden in the book itself. No omegas in the first edition, one omega in the revised edition. This would mean that the content of the second edition was changed, so that one omega in the colophon became necessary again. So, the question that I pose is: “what was left away in the second edition that was present in the first edition”. I do not have the first edition. Only people who have both editions could answer this question.

Here is a description of the changes:

"A new, revised edition of Forrest Fenn’s book, “Once Upon A While, Revised”. This revised third memoir showcases the original 39 mini-episodes in the life of Forrest Fenn, plus a new 40th story. Forrest corrected some text and included more of his stick-figure drawings that made readers chuckle in the original release. Stories from jumping off a terrifying bridge as a teenager, riding a fast horse through mountain passes and nearly everything else in-between is included in this beautiful new volume. Soft cover, 196 pages."

source: Once Upon a While — Old Santa Fe Trading Co

[Not4but242Walk]

It looks like one user said it was the Dizzy Dean Scrapbook that was the added one:
Once Upon A While - Revised! - The Hint of Riches - Forrest Fenn's Treasure Hunt

Below is that story as it appeared in SB 188:

[jan_v60]

My question was not what he added in the revised edition, but what he suppressed or left away in the revised edition. Because that could be the reason why he added an omega again in the colophon.. I realize that it can be a detail that is difficult to find. But without the first edition of OUAW in my possession I can’t compare. Who can help me?

[Rose Livingstone]

Being commaless with Dizzy made him want another soda. With an incorrect period in ‘Dr’. So he’s taking commas and adding periods. Confusing, but I’m not an English major.
No rainbow has ends. They’re all circles. F said in the poem preface “end of my rainbow” which I find an odd juxtaposition to the usual “over the rainbow.” They can be seen as circles from above, on the other hand, under seems halfway, incomplete, trapped on the surface, in the middle.

[jan_v60]

Is there really nobody here that can help me to a (eventually digital) copy of the content and covers of the first edition of OUAW. I see that this book is fore sale on amazon.com. But with the stupid import custom taxes for sendings to Europe, that is much to expensive, for an unknown result.
You also can pm me.

[Alsetenash]

My question was not what he added in the revised edition, but what he suppressed or left away in the revised edition. Because that could be the reason why he added an omega again in the colophon.. I realize that it can be a detail that is difficult to find. But without the first edition of OUAW in my possession I can’t compare. Who can help me?

Posted by Goldilocks a while ago...I'll just copy and paste it . Hope this helps somewhat:

Begin Quote:

"Here's a pretty extensive list of the differences. Unfortunately I can't credit the person who did this list because it was from Dal's. Now that Dal's site is gone a lot of hard work can no longer be credited and may even be lost.

Differences between 1st printing and 2nd printing of OUAW

Cover: Addition of word “revised” in red lettering plus arrow point to note this as “a revised third memoir…”

Signature page has same change as cover. Forrest’s signature looks better in my revised edition (opinion)

ISBN page: Almost identical graphics, Different publisher (Forrest’s publishing company published)

Second printing

Different ISBN’s

Email and website excluded in 2nd printing.

Red line missing but second printing isn’t as saturated.

Forward xi: Word “life” in “…and then and there end his life.” has a white spot (like a misprint) that is covering up part of the I and f (seems more like a glitch).

Opposite Preface: Forrest Fenn as stick figure (has his belt buckle) is now dancing. The hat no longer has any brown. Plus it shows 6 legs (to show dancing movement). You can also see more of the left band (not sure what that is).

Preface: Different text, but lets the reader know about what the revised edition brings with it (notes all the stories have been revised by Forrest). Also notes “It is the last chapter in my final book. Now it is time for me to rest.”

Table of Contents (left page): Montana Gold 92 now appears on this page.

Table of Contents (right page): New graphics that are similar but different. New text, now says BOOM instead of POW, BOO have white space inside the letters. Me and Dizzy Dean story added at the end.

No apparent differences in Supplemental Punishment (pg 2-5) which in itself seems odd considering his statement he revised all the stories. Note that quite a few stories (not noted below) also appeared to have no discernible differences.

The Long Jump (pg 6-9) Edard is missing and Laurens is higher up in the sketch work on page 7.

Sweet Fragrances (10-19): pages 14 and 15 have a connected graphic of Forrest being chased by a container of cloves that is only half full. Page 18 has a new figure with Forrest’s belt, no hat, blue colored legs (blue jeans) and a frown on the face (arms up like a cactus).

An Education from Stanley: page 21 has a different stick figure of Forrest (the 1st edition has the same stick figure from opposite preface, this one is new but has the brown in the hat and is facing left instead of right. My book has a pen line of sorts near the figure (not a black marker) but appears to be a glitch and is not from a live pen (no indentation).

Me and Little Beaver: Page 31 has new stick figure standing on the M in the title (no belt buckle) and holding a rifle (not drawn).

Explosion on 3rd Street: Page 49: Image of Skippy in hospital bed instead of image of Forrest, Peggy, Irene, Skippy, Donnie and June. On page 49 near the top right it says, “Blown up Skippy” instead of the other pictures description. That image and description is now on 50 and 51 (the text stayed the same otherwise).

Once in a while I do something right: Page 56-57 the lower paint is now green instead of purple and the sky in the photo is much more blue.

Annabella’s hat: Page 65 the bullet is not the same bullet.

I Never Go Shopping, But…: Page 66 the graphic has been modified of the woman (legs are the same and general demeanor/posture).

The Quahada Chief on a Black Pony: Page 82 new color sketch of a woman on horseback. This offsets the text for the next two pages.

Montana Golden: Page 94 new graphic of person in hat (no buckle) fishing with fish on the line (bend in the rod).

Remnants of the Past: Page 97 has image of Elephant with long ivory tusk (only 1 visible).

The Iron Rooster of Sante Fe County: Page 112: The number 112 shows up and the Rooster is completely on page 113.

Doug Hyde in Stone: Page 147 last paragraph Joe Medicine Crow’s full name given instead of just Joe.

The Gracieela Experience: page 161 instead of saying “What?!!!” It says “You What?!!!”

The Bullet Comes Home: Page 171 now has photo credits for the photo (Lacee Peloguin).

Me and Dizzy Dean (completely new and not in the 1st printing) Joe Garagiola?

Colophon now has a single omega symbol added below the word Colophon. Plus the addition of upward arrow and word “revised”.

Back flap: Everything below “…she is our heroine.” Excluded in the 2nd printing.

Back cover: price increase to $35.00 instead of $24.95 plus new ISBN and UPC code."

End quote.

I think this was originally provided by Zapster

[Gunrunner]

Is there really nobody here that can help me to a (eventually digital) copy of the content and covers of the first edition of OUAW. I see that this book is fore sale on amazon.com. But with the stupid import custom taxes for sendings to Europe, that is much to expensive, for an unknown result.
You also can pm me.

I don't have the book either but my interest has certainly been piqued by these recent discussions.
Abe Books has a copy for sale from a seller in the UK, if that helps any:

https://www.abebooks.com/9780692196281/Once-Revised-0692196285/plp

[Star Shadow]

As noted above
"No apparent differences in Supplemental Punishment (pg 2-5) which in itself seems odd considering his statement he revised all the stories."
In a sense, I think this story was loosely tied to the Totem Cafe. They both had a familiar ring if you listened close. The title in itself speaks volumes and struck me curious why it was chosen as the first chapter. All in my opinion of course.

[jan_v60]

I don't have the book either but my interest has certainly been piqued by these recent discussions.
Abe Books has a copy for sale from a seller in the UK, if that helps any:
https://www.abebooks.com/97806921962...0692196285/plp

That is the revised edition, I already have.

[Duster]

I believe that the bane of my existence created a three pronged solution.

[jan_v60]

For serious thinkers-searchers only. Please think about it:

About the double omega’s and their evolution in OUAW:
- Forrest started with the double omega colophon in 17$ a square inch.That was long before TTOTC was published
- we find them back in TTOTC and in TFTW
- but then suddenly in the first edition in 2017 of OUAW there are no omega’s in the colophon AND Forrest quoted that this was because they were not necessary anymore.
- and then in revised edition of OUOW (2018) there suddenly is again one omega in the colophon.

There can be other explanations but my explanation is:
- the double omegas are closely linked with that place where he wanted to die. Must have something to do with the far past.
- he repeats them in his first two chase books
- when asked why there were no more double omegas in the first edition of the third book…he said they were not necessary anymore: for me that means that the signification of the double omegas is contained within the text and/or pictures in this book
- in the revised edition of the third book, suddenly there is one omega again in the colophon…. For me that means that one of the reasons to omit them in the the first edition has gone. So something in the text/pictures from the first edition must have changed towards the revised edition in a way that the explanation of one of the omegas is not included into the text/figures anymore.

As I only have the revised edition, I cannot continue this research..,unless buying somewhere the first edition.(very expensive)
Is here really nobody here with a complete scan of the first edition?
Untill now I did not receive a reaction from people who have both editions. That is logical, because very few people would order and thus have available both editions pf the same book.

[jan_v60]

It all seems to me like much ado about nothing.

Could you explain why you think that this discussion is a nothingburger, while I think is contains important but neglected ideas? I always respect opinions of others, if motivated…please explain your rather harsh comment on something I thought to be important.
Jan

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The Omegas, THE END ,Forrest new his was nigh, you will find them near the end of your quest. Hint (the rusty scissors not king TUT’s) and they’re below the home of brown not far from the parking lot. Hint where do most of us end up after we’re gone