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  • #16
    Hey,
    Try Cassiopeia on for size. The constellation has a resemblance to the M/W on the eye of the frog on page 133.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by starwheel View Post
      If they are not part of the puzzle then why does Forrest use them, and so blatantly put them in your face as on the covers of both issues of OUAW?
      I have proved that the constellation of 'Triangulum' is on the covers of both. Forrest even goes so far as to add another star directly after his name on the revised edition and changes the color of one distant star to Gold, so what are you not understanding? Start questioning and stop letting blatant hints pass over your head without questioning why?
      ​​​Forrest must have despaired at times and have wondered what it would take to get you going. To be honest so do I.

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      "Start questioning and stop letting blatant hints pass over your head without questioning why?"
      "Forrest must have despaired at times and have wondered what it would take to get you going. To be honest so do I."

      Why? An alternative perspective; my opinion:

      The only thing that stars have to do with this as a hint , is the extra star on the "Revised Edition". He wanted you to notice that extra "Gold Star". For that is where the hint is on the cover(s). Other than that, the stars on the cover of the first edition are just a chosen design for the cover. It's all about the "Revised Edition" one star added. Why? Because other than some minor changes to the SB's from the first book to throughout the Revised edition, there is also one more SB he added to the Revised book. Hence, the "one additional [gold] star? That SB is # 188 about Dizzy Dean. Forrest "prayed for D's" , no? How about that he added the Dizzy Dean Life Magazine Cover. Wasn't there a story told by FF about throwing a "Time Magazine in the garbage" or something?

      So FF had 39 SB's in the first edition of OUAW and added the Dizzy Dean to the Revised Edition that makes it a total of 40. The Revised edition isn't just "Revised", but also added to it with one. What is the name of the beer? Perhaps there's a big hint in the Dizzy Dean story?

      Dizzy Dean was a baseball Star having beer with FF at Golf game.

      It's hard to see the Stars in the sky during the day and or on a cloudy night.

      I'm not saying your wrong. I'm just answering your question as for why I missed your idea of the Stars hint. There's just no geography up there. Lol

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Alsetenash View Post


        "Start questioning and stop letting blatant hints pass over your head without questioning why?"
        "Forrest must have despaired at times and have wondered what it would take to get you going. To bnahe honest so do I."

        Why? An alternative perspective; my opinion:

        The only thing that stars have to do with this as a hint , is the extra star on the "Revised Edition". He wanted you to notice that extra "Gold Star". For that is where the hint is on the cover(s). Other than that, the stars on the cover of the first edition are just a chosen design for the cover. It's all about the "Revised Edition" one star added. Why? Because other than some minor changes to the SB's from the first book to throughout the Revised edition, there is also one more SB he added to the Revised book. Hence, the "one additional [gold] star? That SB is # 188 about Dizzy Dean. Forrest "prayed for D's" , no? How about that he added the Dizzy Dean Life Magazine Cover. Wasn't there a story told by FF about throwing a "Time Magazine in the garbage" or something?

        So FF had 39 SB's in the first edition of OUAW and added the Dizzy Dean to the Revised Edition that makes it a total of 40. The Revised edition isn't just "Revised", but also added to it with one. What is the name of the beer? Perhaps there's a big hint in the Dizzy Dean story?

        Dizzy Dean was a baseball Star having beer with FF at Golf game.

        It's hard to see the Stars in the sky during the day and or on a cloudy night.

        I'm not saying your wrong. I'm just answering your question as for why I missed your idea of the Stars hint. There's just no geography up there. Lol

        https://youtu.be/ROea9YecqBQ
        @Alsetanash Thank you for your input, I appreciate it. I have no doubt that you have heard of declination and precession with regards to stars, they are akin to our Latitude and Longitude on Earth but applied to celestial bodies. I believe Forrest was attempting to plot a stars position in the heavens to a place on Earth which is difficult to achieve. The next best thing was to position a complete constellation here on Earth by using the geometry of that constellation and reproducing it on land. To this end he achieved it, he found geographic locations on a map via his poem clues drawn onto it that form the constellation's exact geometry on the map. Triangulum appears on the map by plotting out the clues upon it. It is perfect down to its internal angles which define it, download it and you can verify the angles of 90 degrees, 72 degrees and 18 degrees. The overlay I have used on the cover of OUAW is a direct print off from the internet it was a perfect fit as you see. Obviously either Forrest or the book cover designer used the same one to position the stars on the cover. The larger glowing star on the cover is the blaze location on the map which is a reduced image of course.

        The geometry on the map stems from following Rainbow research, which plots the course on the map.
        Ptolemy discovered Triangulum during 200 AD, he was a Greco Roman astronomer, astrologer and mathematician. Isaac Newton is noted for his work on the theory of Light and named the 7 colors of the Rainbow, he too was a mathematician and astronomer and built a refracting telescope that used mirrors instead of glass lenses.
        On the covers of OUAW are ghosted heads bottom left, one is of a Greek curly headed man, merged into a long haired man. They represent Ptolemy and Newton, two key characters whose works feature in the puzzle.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Spoon View Post

          There is a problem with your assertion. Forrest did not create the artwork for Once Upon a While. Credit is given to Dreamstime.com. If the stars are laid out in the way you suggest, Fenn would have had to instruct them to do so. Such instruction would had to have been very specific, tipping them off that it was central to solving the puzzle. The illustrators and anyone they told about it would have had a huge leg up on the rest of the field.
          Spoon That is highly unlikely that the cover designer would understand that as it would only become apparent to someone who had at first discovered it was formed by three clues drawn on the map from the poem using geometry, inspired by first understanding the rainbow as the solution to the puzzle. And that has not been believed on here even though I have done my best to expain the principal.
          Belief in both the rainbow and the star constellations is necessary, you cannot get one without the other. Therefore what you suggest is unlikely.
          Furthermore it is not central to the puzzle, the rainbow is, and if understood it is the geometry formed by the poem clues on a map which lead you to it.
          Last edited by starwheel; 02-28-2023, 06:01 AM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Alsetenash View Post


            "Start questioning and stop letting blatant hints pass over your head without questioning why?"
            "Forrest must have despaired at times and have wondered what it would take to get you going. To be honest so do I."

            Why? An alternative perspective; my opinion:

            The only thing that stars have to do with this as a hint , is the extra star on the "Revised Edition". He wanted you to notice that extra "Gold Star". For that is where the hint is on the cover(s). Other than that, the stars on the cover of the first edition are just a chosen design for the cover. It's all about the "Revised Edition" one star added. Why? Because other than some minor changes to the SB's from the first book to throughout the Revised edition, there is also one more SB he added to the Revised book. Hence, the "one additional [gold] star? That SB is # 188 about Dizzy Dean. Forrest "prayed for D's" , no? How about that he added the Dizzy Dean Life Magazine Cover. Wasn't there a story told by FF about throwing a "Time Magazine in the garbage" or something?

            So FF had 39 SB's in the first edition of OUAW and added the Dizzy Dean to the Revised Edition that makes it a total of 40. The Revised edition isn't just "Revised", but also added to it with one. What is the name of the beer? Perhaps there's a big hint in the Dizzy Dean story?

            Dizzy Dean was a baseball Star having beer with FF at Golf game.

            It's hard to see the Stars in the sky during the day and or on a cloudy night.

            I'm not saying you’re wrong. I'm just answering your question as for why I missed your idea of the Stars hint. There's just no geography up there. Lol
            I agree that there’s no further message other than the new addition. There are simply too many stars out there not to find 100s of patterns that “fit perfectly”.
            It’s interesting that Aldebaran is orange, though. Maybe someone found the bullseye? To me a ‘gold star’ would be both gold and star shaped, not orange.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by starwheel View Post

              Spoon That is highly unlikely that the cover designer would understand that as it would only become apparent to someone who had at first discovered it was formed by three clues drawn on the map from the poem using geometry, inspired by first understanding the rainbow as the solution to the puzzle. And that has not been believed on here even though I have done my best to expain the principal.
              Belief in both the rainbow and the star constellations is necessary, you cannot get one without the other. Therefore what you suggest is unlikely.
              Furthermore it is not central to the puzzle, the rainbow is, and if understood it is the geometry formed by the poem clues on a map which lead you to it.
              The cover is attributed to an Elena Schweitzer. You could contact Elena and ask her what guidance Fenn gave her in the design. Then you'd know if your theory held water.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Gunrunner View Post

                Hmmm. Looks about right...
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                BINGO!!!! finally someone points it out!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Spoon View Post

                  There is a problem with your assertion. Forrest did not create the artwork for Once Upon a While. Credit is given to Dreamstime.com. If the stars are laid out in the way you suggest, Fenn would have had to instruct them to do so. Such instruction would had to have been very specific, tipping them off that it was central to solving the puzzle. The illustrators and anyone they told about it would have had a huge leg up on the rest of the field.
                  i disagree. this doesn't help out anyone in a huge way. most ppl wouldn't even know what to do with it.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Spoon View Post

                    The cover is attributed to an Elena Schweitzer. You could contact Elena and ask her what guidance Fenn gave her in the design. Then you'd know if your theory held water.
                    Spoon Yes, I know I have already mentioned her name on here. I did email her regarding the cover art and the clever way in which she included the ghostly faces also but she never replied, which, like everything else to do with this puzzle is shrouded in secrecy.
                    I also emailed Lou Bruno and got a nil response.

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                    • #25
                      [QUOTE=trueyeti;n493425]Hey,
                      Try Cassiopeia on for size. The constellation has a resemblance to the M/W on the eye of the frog on page 133.

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                      trueyeti If you can make a downloaded photo of this constellation overlay your cover stars precisely you are on to something.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Zapster View Post
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                        Reel it in.

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                        • #27
                          What should become apparent is the fact that the added star after 'forrest fenn' on the revised edition is aligned in exactly the same way as the large glowing star, which on the map is the location. To me this is a hint connecting Forrest with the location. The distant Gold star/blob suggests the treasure is nearby.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by starwheel View Post
                            What should become apparent is the fact that the added star after 'forrest fenn' on the revised edition is aligned in exactly the same way as the large glowing star, which on the map is the location. To me this is a hint connecting Forrest with the location. The distant Gold star/blob suggests the treasure is nearby.

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                            Turning that cover around is interesting, isn't it? The way I see it, either Forrest was trying to ring the bell, or ring the belle. Either way, it hits a person where it counts, doesn't it?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by starwheel View Post

                              Spoon Yes, I know I have already mentioned her name on here. I did email her regarding the cover art and the clever way in which she included the ghostly faces also but she never replied, which, like everything else to do with this puzzle is shrouded in secrecy.
                              I also emailed Lou Bruno and got a nil response.
                              I applaud you for giving it a try. Most would avoid doing so, out of fear that finding out the truth would burst their bubble. Maybe this won't be worth much to you, but you earned my respect with that one.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Suzy View Post

                                Turning that cover around is interesting, isn't it? The way I see it, either Forrest was trying to ring the bell, or ring the belle. Either way, it hits a person where it counts, doesn't it?
                                Suzy Absolutely essential that we do turn it because that is how Triangulum roughly appears in the the night sky. The black line denotes the line between the terrestrial and the celestial. Forrest is on Earrh fishing for stars in the sky, or that is the symbolism he is showing us.

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