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  • #61
    Originally posted by willynilly

    Nobody is perfect, F “tried” to think of everything but he was a flawed human being like everyone else. There is more than one way to skin a cat as they so disturbingly say.
    Sure, but I showed you just one of many problems with the official narrative. That narrative is so far away from "nobody is perfect" that it calls everything into question. l believe a healthy skepticism is warranted.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by willynilly

      Nobody is perfect, F “tried” to think of everything but he was a flawed human being like everyone else. There is more than one way to skin a cat as they so disturbingly say.
      Hey willy let's talk disturbed! Once my dad got a cat from the shelter that had been euthanized. He skinned it by letting it soak in an aquarium using some kind of chemical. Everything dissolved except the bones, which he wired back together with copper wire. I was about 7 or 8 and remember it (the aquarium) sitting on the back porch for weeks. He was a man of science, a physician admired by many.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Sirius B View Post



        Yes to all of the above.
        I think Kubrick also engaged in this game as well...

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        I was really hoping to find a simpler, more direct explanation for the adaptation of Rockwell's art in TTOTC. For example, something along the lines of: Rockwell --> Boy Scouts --> Philmont. (With of course some logical leap to northern Montana, in my case.)

        You'll appreciate this. I had the opportunity to see some of the art work and correspondence relating to the work that Les Novros did for Kubrick on 2001, at the Museum of the Moving Image. Reams of material. He only used a small fraction. Remember, this material is all dated 1965. When I first pulled up on this sketch, my jaw just about hit the floor. Remember, the space shuttle is still 15 years away! Haven't even set aside funding for investigating it. So sometimes, life really does imitate art. I mean, that's the space shuttle, right? I repeat- 1965. Novros was a USC professor, but in the film school. not the physics dept! Lucas said: “The first time I truly understood the unique quality of film was when I took Les Novros’ class".

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        I think it's an iterative process -- art imitates life imitates art imitates until here we are. Imagine. Create. Do better next time. I hear the Ringworld is unstable. Constraint becomes opportunity. But, yeah, looks like the space shuttle to me!

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        • #64
          Originally posted by mountain digger

          hey willy, the poem should lead to a location at which one might grid search... but "the spot" should be precise, don't you think?
          It's my thoughts that f did think of everything and I believe the lone solver understands.
          If there is an exact spot to stand in order to find the blaze, which lies within an area that the poem has led you to, this does not suggest that the poem will tell you exactly where to stand.

          It can still be said that the poem led you to the precise spot within the entirety of Rocky Mountains, despite needing some legwork to find the correct vantage point to the blaze.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by sally View Post

            Hey willy let's talk disturbed! Once my dad got a cat from the shelter that had been euthanized. He skinned it by letting it soak in an aquarium using some kind of chemical. Everything dissolved except the bones, which he wired back together with copper wire. I was about 7 or 8 and remember it (the aquarium) sitting on the back porch for weeks. He was a man of science, a physician admired by many.
            Did you get a skeletal anatomy lesson out of it? Was this a form of taxidermy hobby or serve another reason?
            The human plastination Body Worlds exhibit isn’t for everyone, but it’s scientifically helpful and not a bad way for people to contribute their shell if parts can’t go to the living, IMO. Arguably better than Gross Anatomy where maybe 4 people learn from it before remains destroyed.
            I keep missing it when it’s (or I’m) in town though, so haven’t seen it yet personally. If learning anatomy is disturbed, then I choose Da Vinci’s side.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by mountain digger

              “If you are in the right spot, something you probably haven’t thought about, should be obvious to you.”

              Not sure what you mean by "correct vantage point to the blaze". If you know what the blaze is and have followed the clues, do you not think you can see or get to the blaze?



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              It is possible the blaze may only be visible in a certain spot at the location the poem directed you to.

              According to the poem you are to locate 'your creek'. You are then given three clues to help determine which creek that is.

              1) No paddle up it
              2) Heavy loads is found upstream of it
              3) Water high is found upstream of it

              The poem then jumps to "If you've been wise..." suggesting the possibility that you may not have been so (at first), though keeping at it until "something you probably haven’t thought about, should be obvious to you.”

              Perhaps asking yourself "Whatever happened to my ride?" Then, looking around at the mountain tops (HL&WH), you finally spot what happened to 'it', then "look quickly down".

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              • #67
                Hmmm...

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by mountain digger
                  Not4but242Walk

                  I think I follow and yes, it's possible. My thoughts: 3 clues to confirm a creek you own? That's a lot of marrying to be done along that creek, but it's logical imo. Guess I see just one clue having 3 confirmers. And you still don't see the blaze [next clue to marry?] ?
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Not4but242Walk View Post

                    Consider this from Jack's reddit post:

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                    This may take a lifetime to figure out

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by willynilly

                      Nobody is perfect, F “tried” to think of everything but he was a flawed human being like everyone else. There is more than one way to skin a cat as they so disturbingly say.
                      eek!

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Not4but242Walk View Post

                        Consider this from Jack's reddit post:

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                        Jack sounds like an astrologer or psychic lol with his vague nonsensical musings about the “solve’. He is 100% in the dark imo. Take the hush money and run.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Knowledge

                          I would say 99.99 are in the dark and 99.5 have placed themselves there. It does not take long for gold to sort the wheat from the chaff, it is God's purest that allows a person to see themselves.
                          Dennis- Anyone who had been through 3rd grade could figure this out.

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                          • #73
                            lol how does...and take it in the canyon down, not far, but too far to walk. line up with....get in your car and drive to the first clue? well shit idk, maybe hidden dead reckoning directions in the poem? skip used to dead reckon through the woods so that MUST mean its true cuz i read it in a sb. no place for the meek, ha, any good map will tell ya thats the point of no return according to the sb's. how bout if you are brave and in the wood?

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Spoon View Post
                              May I interject something in this debate between willynilly and shyorphan? If we are to believe the things that Forrest said (i.e. "if Fenn said he hit it and we believed him..."), then why wouldn't we also believe his statements that the only way to find the chest was to solve the clues in the poem? Jack's tale gives a different rendition. He told us that he searched a large area many times until he found it, and that was based upon a supposed slip-up in Fenn's words that gave away where Fenn wanted to be buried. That doesn't sound like the only way to find it was to solve the clues in the poem. You can't hold to trusting all the things that Forrest told us while at the same time accepting Jack's story as authentic. The two simply don't mesh.
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