Is it time?

[kpro]

At the sake of full disclosure, I was asked recently about a week ago if I could ever be swayed away from 9MH. I said only if EVIDENCE was provided and compelling.

well, today is that day. Yes. I have some doubts now. Never thought I would say that.

I want to thank people for sharing the small bits.

i do want to say some have said I am rude because there is so much story to share, but the lead is EVIDENCE or I can’t even begin the discussions. And yes Mike is listening too but of the same mind. I am only one person and need to protect time, but as this goes on, some are sharing more. And I appreciate it.

the time has come to share. But lead with EVIDeNCE or it won’t go too far. At least with us. I know many are on the edge to do so. Go for it. Mike and I will keep confidential until ready but it is time IMO.

[Cold_Well]

What does e signify to you @kpro?

I like A better.

Like the first letter

of the

poem.

[AaBbCcDdEeFf]

If not evidence why not old fashioned common sense. There is the FOIA that has Forrest saying 'he may be heading your way but he doesn't know where the treasure is' in response to a searcher heading to the Western side of the Park.

We also have the searcher from Georgia who searched on the Western side of the Park with her sisters and made an email public showing forrest telling her she needed to find a different search area. This may sound contradictory but it's really not. It's because she only searched the West side of the Park. If she searched other parts then Forrest wouldn't have said that to her.

So common sense tells it wasn't on the West side of the Park.

[bdalameda]

I have always had doubts about 9MH. Not that I did not believe the treasure was located there at some point. I just was not sure that Jack found it there but had relocated it there back in 2019. There are better hints and the poem fits other places better especially,"the home of Brown"". I did find what appears to be a simple map that points to 9MH in a scrapbook photo but it could be my imagination playing tricks. There are parts of the poem that seem to indicate the area around Nez Perce creek and the Porcupine Buttes. Again my interpretation with no evidence other than the words of the poem and my interpretations of those words. Some day I will return to the area in the hopes I can find some evidence of where the treasure was located. After 25 plus trips I guess I have one more left in me. I would love to hear that video tape of Forrest explaining the poem, if it does exist.

[Round Peg, Square Hole]

Take what you see and hear with a pinch of salt, k. I suspect anyone in the know is keeping mum.

[starwheel]

9MH was never the place, the puzzle mechanism does not take you into Wyoming. My advice is go back to the book and the poem, the solution is still to be solved.

[Yellerstain]

I love secrets.

[BestGA]

I’m not sure FF would want it shared. Like Shiloh said, he didn’t want it destroyed. I think the day to share (if at all) is 6-7-2023. But I would probably need to hear from the family/estate that it was time to share. Just because someone is gone doesn’t mean you stop honoring their wishes.

For what it’s worth - I do not believe it is/was in the park.

[voxpops]

Some of us might think that this evidence thing works two ways.

[Imeverybodynow]

If not evidence why not old fashioned common sense. There is the FOIA that has Forrest saying 'he may be heading your way but he doesn't know where the treasure is' in response to a searcher heading to the Western side of the Park.

We also have the searcher from Georgia who searched on the Western side of the Park with her sisters and made an email public showing forrest telling her she needed to find a different search area. This may sound contradictory but it's really not. It's because she only searched the West side of the Park. If she searched other parts then Forrest wouldn't have said that to her.

So common sense tells it wasn't on the West side of the Park.

Common sense would tell you it wasn’t in the Park at all!

If it was hidden in the park, he wouldn’t give a nudge privately to someone searching there, and NOT to the entire search community. That would jeopardize the integrity of the chase and if I’m giving away a few million, personally? I wouldn’t jeopardize the authenticity of a cool ass project like that, I’m sure he wouldn’t either.

and I still don’t see an 80 year crossing the fire hole in the middle of winter. Not happening, sorry, but let’s be realistic with that situation.

[Misconstrued]

as far as i know the only evidence is the poem and where he parked something. i say that because where he parked his car for the final clue changed locations, but the part about parking his car did not. the only other thing i know where he parked something was his plane at the sf airport and that could be a starting point imo. its pretty hard to follow point to point directions without knowing the starting point.. now u can argue wwwh as the starting point per f saying thats where u begin it, but that leaves u using the description of wwwh to find the first clue. shouldn't the poem directions lead you to a place that fits the description, not the other way around?

He parked his car below the home of brown. I’m waiting until the time presents itself to be favorable. Forrest was more than honorable for how he handled the end of the chase. For his family, the community, the solver and the integrity of the chase he truly did think of mostly everything. I respect him not wanting the spot known because well, look at what happened to the CONFIRMED 9 mh. I rest my case. I could show you the home of Brown but you’d go right to it and screw it up some how. Give yourself a pat.

[trueyeti]

as far as i know the only evidence is the poem and where he parked something. i say that because where he parked his car for the final clue changed locations, but the part about parking his car did not. the only other thing i know where he parked something was his plane at the sf airport and that could be a starting point imo. its pretty hard to follow point to point directions without knowing the starting point.. now u can argue wwwh as the starting point per f saying thats where u begin it, but that leaves u using the description of wwwh to find the first clue. shouldn't the poem directions lead you to a place that fits the description, not the other way around?

Hey hand,
I agree. IMO, Forrest uses the word "clue" as a means of trickery. Remembering Forrest's answer for the question of "Who is Brown," contrasted against "first clue/WWWh," there is a contradiction. For my solve, Brown is the "most important clue" and can be viewed as the "first clue" because it got me to locality, and that is "the starting point." You can't have WWWh without locality. Once at locality, WWWh is discovered.

There is contention with searchers because they view the words "first clue" and "WWWh" only, and can't resolve the contradiction with the concepts of "first clue"/"most important clue." For me, Brown, is one of the "9-Clues" that are in the poem, and it is one of the "9-Clues" that are on the ground too. Where you wrote, "starting point," for me that means firstly "locality." Once at locality.....IMO, then is when the "first clue of WWWh" comes into play. A trick, within a trick, within a trick....is/was Forrest's mode of Standard Operating Procedures (SOP).

To repeat, for me, "Brown" is the most important clue, because it got me to a locality, then within that locality I discovered WWWh (the first clue). Although WWWh is technically "the first clue," it can be viewed as the "last clue" too. And that, IMO...is in line with his SOP of a trick, within a trick, within a trick. Anyway, for me, Brown....is all about the "starting point," (locality), and getting there, requires understanding Forrest's SOP's of tricks as applied to "first clue." Cheers.

[AaBbCcDdEeFf]

Common sense would tell you it wasn’t in the Park at all!

If it was hidden in the park, he wouldn’t give a nudge privately to someone searching there, and NOT to the entire search community. That would jeopardize the integrity of the chase and if I’m giving away a few million, personally? I wouldn’t jeopardize the authenticity of a cool ass project like that, I’m sure he wouldn’t either.

and I still don’t see an 80 year crossing the fire hole in the middle of winter. Not happening, sorry, but let’s be realistic with that situation.

It for sure was not deep inside the Park. My solve takes me the border. The most it could have been inside the Park was about 400 feet. No need to pay to enter at the guard shack.

[Not4but242Walk]

A part of the overall evidence:

1) f plagiarized the logo from the start point:

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2) f shares a birthday with 'heavy loads' (almost umbilically attached):

"After some petitioning by veterans groups in Wyoming, the previously unnamed ridge was christened Bomber Mountain on August 22, 1946 by the U.S. Forest Service. In honor of the crew members, a commemorative plaque was placed on the shores of Florence Lake, 1.5 miles from the crash site."

source: https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/5763955
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3) USDA's definition of a 'wilderness' matches quotes from Jack / Shiloh / News:


In the Wyoming wilderness... - The Hint of Riches - Forrest Fenn's Treasure Hunt
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4) 13th of July, 1956

"Then one day in 1969, as I was looking through my Flight Log, my eyes fixed on an entry that had only a brief explanation. But I knew! I remembered every detail of that flight and why I had marked it like that. That flight had been many years before - thirteen to be exact - on the 13th of July, 1956. I had taken an old T-33 jet trainer from Stephenville, Newfoundland, to Pope Field, North Carolina." -TTotC

What happened on that date?

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/columnists/christopher-maag/2017/05/28/garden-state-mind-remembering-forgotten-military-tragedy-new-jersey/345782001/

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5) F's 'annual ritual' near The Bighorns (Wagon Box / Sheridan, WY)

http://www.splendidheritage.com/TitlePages/FennTitlePage.html

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6) The map in TFTW has Magnetic Declination Lines, found typically on FAA charts
Magnetic Declination Lines - The Hint of Riches - Forrest Fenn's Treasure Hunt
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7) "My mind stays at about thirteen" -f

Fenn born: August 22, 1930
B-17 becomes a blaze: June 28, 1943
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8) USDA color theme used:

[RahRah]

9MH was never the place, the puzzle mechanism does not take you into Wyoming. My advice is go back to the book and the poem, the solution is still to be solved.

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