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  • What if........I post the ENTIRE solution to the Poem?

    Who will be angry?

    Who will care?

    Who will not care?

    Why bother?

    Are you going to be happy, sad, frustrated?

    What will happen if I do?

    Who will remain silent? Who will not?

    Who will disbelieve?

    Who will block me?

    Damn....so many questions......and then there is only one answer that matters to all of these questions......

    Me.

    What if?........



    Be safe.
    Tim

  • #2
    I predict! We will read it, make remarks, and that will be all.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by willynilly View Post
      I predict! We will read it, make remarks, and that will be all.
      And I agree 100%
      Lost Time is never found again. - Benjamin Franklin​

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      • #4
        Let's hear it.

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        • #5
          Who cares unles your name is Jack

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Chester Retriever
            Oh my! How 'bout them apples
            Apple Jacks...

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            • #7
              I doubt folk will care too much! I certainly won't lose much sleep over it...

              Go for it!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Tim (ZosoRocks) View Post
                Who will be angry?

                Who will care?

                Who will not care?

                Why bother?

                Are you going to be happy, sad, frustrated?

                What will happen if I do?

                Who will remain silent? Who will not?

                Who will disbelieve?

                Who will block me?

                Damn....so many questions......and then there is only one answer that matters to all of these questions......

                Me.

                What if?........



                Be safe.
                Tim
                I predict, very few will believe you. But if you really like to publish your complete theory, you must do it. But please keep it simple and clear. Until now, in your many posts and bumping up older posts to keep them up, I saw not very much convincing elements. And remember one golden rule: We do not have to prove that you are wrong, you have to prove that you are right.










                Last edited by jan_v60; 01-17-2023, 07:39 PM.

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                • #9
                  All this talk about apples makes me think of Garth

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                  • #10
                    He will do

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                    • #11
                      FOR ALL THE SEARCHERS......this will be my last post publicly.

                      Good luck to all.....

                      "Last one there is a rotten egg!"

                      "Why didn't I think of that?!"

                      Welcome to my world.

                      If we continue to hide from the answers, we will never get anywhere.

                      Many love to rebuke my ANSWERS without presenting anything at all, except hot air and vocal noises.

                      And yet many believe "Jack/Bill" - just because.

                      Foolishness.

                      Yep...those folks love to runaway in shame!

                      Good - they deserve it - especially the gullible ones.

                      Time to end that "wrong thinking".

                      ******************

                      You who read this, will now know much more of the truths that are embedded within the Poem.

                      Forrest was the architect. These are the answers...all factual.

                      I believe the Poem is complete of nothing but facts. ...and no need for imagination at all.

                      .....and if you choose the path to debunk these details....then please be sure of yourself.......because I don't expect. ...ANYONE. ...to debunk, dismiss, negate. .or whatever you "peers" think about these answers. They are quite solid in every direction.

                      I've stayed silent in hopes to see others show their light. Evidently...it is harder than they thought.

                      Too bad for them....it is quite easy to give more than you receive.


                      ********************

                      Clue # 1 - BIWWWH -- [Begin it where warm waters halt]
                      - location = Cameron, MT / West Fork Cabin Camp
                      - adventure = in the Rocky Mtns
                      - ref to notoriety = William Marvin Fenn, Sr
                      - reason for this clue = His Father was the person who took Forrest's family into the Rocky Mountains to this location.

                      Decisions, decisions, huh? Do you continue or not?

                      SMH - oh wait...is that "Jack/Bill" calling you?

                      If so, then run along now, there is nothing here of you.


                      Clue # 2 - PIBTHOB - [Put in below the home of Brown]
                      - location = Philipsburg, Montana - John Brown lived in this city
                      - adventure = in the business world
                      - ref to notoriety = John Francis Dean "Sandbar" Brown
                      - reason = Forrest the paperboy - 1st job

                      Clue # 3 - NPFTM - [no place for the meek]
                      - location = XXXXX
                      - adventure = in a child's playground
                      - ref to notoriety = XXXXX
                      - reason for this clue = surveyed land

                      Clue # 4 - TEIEDN - [The end is ever drawing near]
                      - location = Lake TownsEND
                      - adventure = in fishing
                      - ref to notoriety = Westslope cutthroat trout
                      (Latin name = Oncoraynchus clarki lewisi)
                      - reason for this clue = VERY legitimate and one of VERY few places that has the trout thriving

                      NOTE - in order to locate this lake - one must be BOTG.
                      - IT DOES NOT SHOW UP ON THE WEB.

                      Clue # 5 - TBNP - [There'll be no paddle]
                      - location = XXXXX
                      - adventure = in exploring
                      - ref to notoriety = Lewis Meriwether and William Clark
                      - reason for this clue = two individuals who introduced Forrest to exploring the wilderness

                      Clue # 6 - UYC - [up your creek]
                      - location = XXXXX
                      - adventure = in Nature conservation
                      - ref to notoriety = Stephen Tyng Mather
                      - reason for this clue = 1st director of the National Forest Service
                      + can be deciphered from the riddle: "Why is a butterfly a flutterby?"​​​​.

                      Clue # 7 - IYBWAFTB - [If you've been wise and found the blaze]
                      - location = XXXXX
                      - adventure = in Native American history
                      - ref to notoriety = XXXXX
                      - reason for this clue = a high regard and Reverence to the wise
                      ​​​​​​ + this is a specific person
                      + can be deciphered from the Canasta riddle

                      Clue #8(a) - LQD - [look quickly down]
                      - location = XXXXX
                      - adventure = in Art
                      - ref to notoriety = Christian Dior & Andre Kohn
                      - reason for this clue = Peggy's lure to fashion

                      Clue #8(b) - YQTC - [you quest to cease]
                      - location = XXXXX
                      - adventure = in Art
                      - ref to notoriety = "Treasure Island" / Robert Louis Stevenson
                      - reason for this clue = a QUEST to find yourself - Forrest's quest leads off with....."As I go alone in there...."

                      Clue #9(a) - BTS - [But tarry scant]
                      - location = XXXXX
                      - adventure = in Imagination & Storytelling
                      - ref to notoriety = Salvador Dali
                      - reason for this clue = Surrealism and it being a "thinking man's artform" (as is "The Poem")
                      ++ "tarry" - archaic use was "dally" = "Dali" = Salvador Dali
                      = Forrest's association to the Art world and Impressionistic works of Art is clearly a direct connection.
                      = Salvador Dali was "The Grandfather of Surrealism" in many facets. Surrealism requires imagination to understand it.
                      = Every picture tells a story.


                      Clue #9(b) - WMG - [with marvel gaze]
                      - location = XXXXX
                      - adventure = in Imagination & Storytelling
                      - ref to notoriety = "Jim Hawkins"
                      - reason for this clue = it's what he saw when he found his treasure - a marvel gaze

                      ===============

                      Acceptance is not that hard, considering many have done so with just using a belief system of hearsay and the "Jack/Bill" created narrative - but yet..... with not one single clue presented. Hmmmm - sounds like "blind faith".

                      Ask yourself.......what limitations are in place for you by doing the same with these facts?

                      There are None, huh? Your Free Will is in charge.

                      - You do realize, "Jack/Bill" will never post his so-called general solve, because he has none to post.
                      - Oh, that is right - "Jack/Bill" doesn't have the chest either - "it is in a vault in Santa Fe." - "Jack/Bill's" own words.

                      As I have always stated, I highly encourage anyone to try and debunk these facts. There is no need for "data points" (?), no need for triangulation, no need for Math, no need for the wheel, nor a need to use the many ideas that have surfaced and promoted....those all failed too, huh?

                      Forrest told us in summary to - "read my book and then read the Poem, and then go back and reread the book SLOWLY, and then try to match up the stories to the Poem."
                      ++ in other words - "read about my life, the answers are in the Poem."
                      ++ Which, as you can see - shows the book and the Poem to be DIRECT CONNECTIONS TO FORREST'S LIFE.
                      ++ All you really need to say is...."Why didn't I think of that?"

                      It was indeed that simple, especially when he told us what to do.

                      "It's not impossible, but extremely difficult." - f.
                      -- this statement clearly states it is also solvable!

                      You want to see more.....well stop being lazy and dismiss these first.

                      GO!!!
                      Attached Files
                      Last edited by Tim (ZosoRocks); 01-18-2023, 10:47 AM. Reason: EDIT: westlake to westslope - thx @RFISH

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Tim (ZosoRocks) View Post
                        FOR ALL THE SEARCHERS......this will be my last post publicly.

                        Good luck to all.....

                        "Last one there is a rotten egg!"

                        "Why didn't I think of that?!"

                        Welcome to my world.

                        If we continue to hide from the answers, we will never get anywhere.

                        Many love to rebuke my ANSWERS without presenting anything at all, except hot air and vocal noises.

                        And yet many believe "Jack/Bill" - just because.

                        Foolishness.

                        Yep...those folks love to runaway in shame!

                        Good - they deserve it - especially the gullible ones.

                        Time to end that "wrong thinking".

                        ******************

                        You who read this, will now know much more of the truths that are embedded within the Poem.

                        Forrest was the architect. These are the answers...all factual.

                        I believe the Poem is complete of nothing but facts. ...and no need for imagination at all.

                        .....and if you choose the path to debunk these details....then please be sure of yourself.......because I don't expect. ...ANYONE. ...to debunk, dismiss, negate. .or whatever you "peers" think about these answers. They are quite solid in every direction.

                        I've stayed silent in hopes to see others show their light. Evidently...it is harder than they thought.

                        Too bad for them....it is quite easy to give more than you receive.


                        ********************

                        Clue # 1 - BIWWWH -- [Begin it where warm waters halt]
                        - location = Cameron, MT / West Fork Cabin Camp
                        - adventure = in the Rocky Mtns
                        - ref to notoriety = William Marvin Fenn, Sr
                        - reason for this clue = His Father was the person who took Forrest's family into the Rocky Mountains to this location.

                        Decisions, decisions, huh? Do you continue or not?

                        SMH - oh wait...is that "Jack/Bill" calling you?

                        If so, then run along now, there is nothing here of you.


                        Clue # 2 - PIBTHOB - [Put in below the home of Brown]
                        - location = Philipsburg, Montana - John Brown lived in this city
                        - adventure = in the business world
                        - ref to notoriety = John Francis Dean "Sandbar" Brown
                        - reason = Forrest the paperboy - 1st job

                        Clue # 3 - NPFTM - [no place for the meek]
                        - location = XXXXX
                        - adventure = in a child's playground
                        - ref to notoriety = XXXXX
                        - reason for this clue = surveyed land

                        Clue # 4 - TEIEDN - [The end is ever drawing near]
                        - location = Lake TownsEND
                        - adventure = in fishing
                        - ref to notoriety = Westlake cutthroat trout
                        (Latin name = Oncoraynchus clarki lewisi)
                        - reason for this clue = VERY legitimate and one of VERY few places that has the trout thriving

                        NOTE - in order to locate this lake - one must be BOTG.
                        - IT DOES NOT SHOW UP ON THE WEB.

                        Clue # 5 - TBNP - [There'll be no paddle]
                        - location = XXXXX
                        - adventure = in exploring
                        - ref to notoriety = Lewis Meriwether and William Clark
                        - reason for this clue = two individuals who introduced Forrest to exploring the wilderness

                        Clue # 6 - UYC - [up your creek]
                        - location = XXXXX
                        - adventure = in Nature conservation
                        - ref to notoriety = Stephen Tyng Mather
                        - reason for this clue = 1st director of the National Forest Service
                        + can be deciphered from the riddle: "Why is a butterfly a flutterby?"​​​​.

                        Clue # 7 - IYBWAFTB - [If you've been wise and found the blaze]
                        - location = XXXXX
                        - adventure = in Native American history
                        - ref to notoriety = XXXXX
                        - reason for this clue = a high regard and Reverence to the wise
                        ​​​​​​ + this is a specific person
                        + can be deciphered from the Canasta riddle

                        Clue #8(a) - LQD - [look quickly down]
                        - location = XXXXX
                        - adventure = in Art
                        - ref to notoriety = Christian Dior & Andre Kohn
                        - reason for this clue = Peggy's lure to fashion

                        Clue #8(b) - YQTC - [you quest to cease]
                        - location = XXXXX
                        - adventure = in Art
                        - ref to notoriety = "Treasure Island" / Robert Louis Stevenson
                        - reason for this clue = a QUEST to find yourself - Forrest's quest leads off with....."As I go alone in there...."

                        Clue #9(a) - BTS - [But tarry scant]
                        - location = XXXXX
                        - adventure = in Imagination & Storytelling
                        - ref to notoriety = Salvador Dali
                        - reason for this clue = Surrealism and it being a "thinking man's artform" (as is "The Poem")
                        ++ "tarry" - archaic use was "dally" = "Dali" = Salvador Dali
                        = Forrest's association to the Art world and Impressionistic works of Art is clearly a direct connection.
                        = Salvador Dali was "The Grandfather of Surrealism" in many facets. Surrealism requires imagination to understand it.
                        = Every picture tells a story.


                        Clue #9(b) - WMG - [with marvel gaze]
                        - location = XXXXX
                        - adventure = in Imagination & Storytelling
                        - ref to notoriety = "Jim Hawkins"
                        - reason for this clue = it's what he saw when he found his treasure - a marvel gaze

                        ===============

                        Acceptance is not that hard, considering many have done so with just using a belief system of hearsay and the "Jack/Bill" created narrative - but yet..... with not one single clue presented. Hmmmm - sounds like "blind faith".

                        Ask yourself.......what limitations are in place for you by doing the same with these facts?

                        There are None, huh? Your Free Will is in charge.

                        - You do realize, "Jack/Bill" will never post his so-called general solve, because he has none to post.
                        - Oh, that is right - "Jack/Bill" doesn't have the chest either - "it is in a vault in Santa Fe." - "Jack/Bill's" own words.

                        As I have always stated, I highly encourage anyone to try and debunk these facts. There is no need for "data points" (?), no need for triangulation, no need for Math, no need for the wheel, nor a need to use the many ideas that have surfaced and promoted....those all failed too, huh?

                        Forrest told us in summary to - "read my book and then read the Poem, and then go back and reread the book SLOWLY, and then try to match up the stories to the Poem."
                        ++ in other words - "read about my life, the answers are in the Poem."
                        ++ Which, as you can see - shows the book and the Poem to be DIRECT CONNECTIONS TO FORREST'S LIFE.
                        ++ All you really need to say is...."Why didn't I think of that?"

                        It was indeed that simple, especially when he told us what to do.

                        "It's not impossible, but extremely difficult." - f.
                        -- this statement clearly states it is also solvable!

                        You want to see more.....well stop being lazy and dismiss these first.

                        GO!!!
                        You left out half the poem!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Tim (ZosoRocks) View Post
                          FOR ALL THE SEARCHERS......this will be my last post publicly.

                          Good luck to all.....

                          "Last one there is a rotten egg!"

                          "Why didn't I think of that?!"

                          Welcome to my world.

                          If we continue to hide from the answers, we will never get anywhere.

                          Many love to rebuke my ANSWERS without presenting anything at all, except hot air and vocal noises.

                          And yet many believe "Jack/Bill" - just because.

                          Foolishness.

                          Yep...those folks love to runaway in shame!

                          Good - they deserve it - especially the gullible ones.

                          Time to end that "wrong thinking".

                          ******************

                          You who read this, will now know much more of the truths that are embedded within the Poem.

                          Forrest was the architect. These are the answers...all factual.

                          I believe the Poem is complete of nothing but facts. ...and no need for imagination at all.

                          .....and if you choose the path to debunk these details....then please be sure of yourself.......because I don't expect. ...ANYONE. ...to debunk, dismiss, negate. .or whatever you "peers" think about these answers. They are quite solid in every direction.

                          I've stayed silent in hopes to see others show their light. Evidently...it is harder than they thought.

                          Too bad for them....it is quite easy to give more than you receive.


                          ********************

                          Clue # 1 - BIWWWH -- [Begin it where warm waters halt]
                          - location = Cameron, MT / West Fork Cabin Camp
                          - adventure = in the Rocky Mtns
                          - ref to notoriety = William Marvin Fenn, Sr
                          - reason for this clue = His Father was the person who took Forrest's family into the Rocky Mountains to this location.

                          Decisions, decisions, huh? Do you continue or not?

                          SMH - oh wait...is that "Jack/Bill" calling you?

                          If so, then run along now, there is nothing here of you.


                          Clue # 2 - PIBTHOB - [Put in below the home of Brown]
                          - location = Philipsburg, Montana - John Brown lived in this city
                          - adventure = in the business world
                          - ref to notoriety = John Francis Dean "Sandbar" Brown
                          - reason = Forrest the paperboy - 1st job

                          Clue # 3 - NPFTM - [no place for the meek]
                          - location = XXXXX
                          - adventure = in a child's playground
                          - ref to notoriety = XXXXX
                          - reason for this clue = surveyed land

                          Clue # 4 - TEIEDN - [The end is ever drawing near]
                          - location = Lake TownsEND
                          - adventure = in fishing
                          - ref to notoriety = Westlake cutthroat trout
                          (Latin name = Oncoraynchus clarki lewisi)
                          - reason for this clue = VERY legitimate and one of VERY few places that has the trout thriving

                          NOTE - in order to locate this lake - one must be BOTG.
                          - IT DOES NOT SHOW UP ON THE WEB.

                          Clue # 5 - TBNP - [There'll be no paddle]
                          - location = XXXXX
                          - adventure = in exploring
                          - ref to notoriety = Lewis Meriwether and William Clark
                          - reason for this clue = two individuals who introduced Forrest to exploring the wilderness

                          Clue # 6 - UYC - [up your creek]
                          - location = XXXXX
                          - adventure = in Nature conservation
                          - ref to notoriety = Stephen Tyng Mather
                          - reason for this clue = 1st director of the National Forest Service
                          + can be deciphered from the riddle: "Why is a butterfly a flutterby?"​​​​.

                          Clue # 7 - IYBWAFTB - [If you've been wise and found the blaze]
                          - location = XXXXX
                          - adventure = in Native American history
                          - ref to notoriety = XXXXX
                          - reason for this clue = a high regard and Reverence to the wise
                          ​​​​​​ + this is a specific person
                          + can be deciphered from the Canasta riddle

                          Clue #8(a) - LQD - [look quickly down]
                          - location = XXXXX
                          - adventure = in Art
                          - ref to notoriety = Christian Dior & Andre Kohn
                          - reason for this clue = Peggy's lure to fashion

                          Clue #8(b) - YQTC - [you quest to cease]
                          - location = XXXXX
                          - adventure = in Art
                          - ref to notoriety = "Treasure Island" / Robert Louis Stevenson
                          - reason for this clue = a QUEST to find yourself - Forrest's quest leads off with....."As I go alone in there...."

                          Clue #9(a) - BTS - [But tarry scant]
                          - location = XXXXX
                          - adventure = in Imagination & Storytelling
                          - ref to notoriety = Salvador Dali
                          - reason for this clue = Surrealism and it being a "thinking man's artform" (as is "The Poem")
                          ++ "tarry" - archaic use was "dally" = "Dali" = Salvador Dali
                          = Forrest's association to the Art world and Impressionistic works of Art is clearly a direct connection.
                          = Salvador Dali was "The Grandfather of Surrealism" in many facets. Surrealism requires imagination to understand it.
                          = Every picture tells a story.


                          Clue #9(b) - WMG - [with marvel gaze]
                          - location = XXXXX
                          - adventure = in Imagination & Storytelling
                          - ref to notoriety = "Jim Hawkins"
                          - reason for this clue = it's what he saw when he found his treasure - a marvel gaze

                          ===============

                          Acceptance is not that hard, considering many have done so with just using a belief system of hearsay and the "Jack/Bill" created narrative - but yet..... with not one single clue presented. Hmmmm - sounds like "blind faith".

                          Ask yourself.......what limitations are in place for you by doing the same with these facts?

                          There are None, huh? Your Free Will is in charge.

                          - You do realize, "Jack/Bill" will never post his so-called general solve, because he has none to post.
                          - Oh, that is right - "Jack/Bill" doesn't have the chest either - "it is in a vault in Santa Fe." - "Jack/Bill's" own words.

                          As I have always stated, I highly encourage anyone to try and debunk these facts. There is no need for "data points" (?), no need for triangulation, no need for Math, no need for the wheel, nor a need to use the many ideas that have surfaced and promoted....those all failed too, huh?

                          Forrest told us in summary to - "read my book and then read the Poem, and then go back and reread the book SLOWLY, and then try to match up the stories to the Poem."
                          ++ in other words - "read about my life, the answers are in the Poem."
                          ++ Which, as you can see - shows the book and the Poem to be DIRECT CONNECTIONS TO FORREST'S LIFE.
                          ++ All you really need to say is...."Why didn't I think of that?"

                          It was indeed that simple, especially when he told us what to do.

                          "It's not impossible, but extremely difficult." - f.
                          -- this statement clearly states it is also solvable!

                          You want to see more.....well stop being lazy and dismiss these first.

                          GO!!!
                          Good job, as far as I know, you have figured it out. Good luck

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                          • #14
                            As long as it’s your solve there shouldn’t be any problems. Post it

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                            • #15
                              That’s a lot of specialized knowledge bundled up with the poem and a good map. Must’ve been encoded.

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