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    I ask everyone please do not post on this thread, I would like to maintain some continuity with the solution. It is one thing to lay out the path of the poem, and just the basics of the solve. This will take everyone from how WWWH was to be found and the hints in TTOTC that Forrest expected and hoped people would use. He made sure you could not just use one map or only GE. I do not know how anyone could solve it with just the poem. It could be done and if you nailed down wwwh you had a chance. I can't do anything about thoses who won't let go of their solve. I can only show you the real location and how I found it. There was no way Forrest Fenn was leaving this earth without the solver knowing what he did. The man had honor and backbone, he would not let the solver wither on the vine, wondering. PLEASE DO NOT POST ON THIS THREAD THANK YOU.
    Last edited by Knowledge; 09-02-2022, 12:53 AM.

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    The bell was one of the big hints Forrest spoke of in TTOTC. He left out the D in the word knowledge on a bell, then he prayed for Ds and no one would listen. He also had a saying ring this bell and I will know. He gave us the book For Whom the bell tolls and made sure we noticed it by describing A Fairwell to arms. He gave little hints like the Alpha teacher had a pointed tone. Teachers with ropes was kinda the blueprint, he even sneaks in the teacher took four steps and turned around. For not far but too far. He gave us the story of Bessie a dairy cow, and Stout hearted men about a college. The Catcher in the rye is about school the big game. Then we have the pinging sound that made Forrest think he could be back with the 7th calvary. They got wiped out becasue the Fort Laramie treaty was broken. So where was Forrest trying to get the reader. When I found the Dairy teaching school run by the university of WY Forrest got the knowledge of the past award from, next to something called the Big Hollow, an undrained basin, it fit. Then I realized the knots in TTOTC were hints to take the water, once I found the Pioneer canal "IT " ended at Wood landing. Right below Jelm mountain where the university of WY has an observatory, where an old firewatch tower once stood. Things started adding up, things like marvel gaze, dancing with the stars, tight focus and under a canopy of stars. It also turns out there is a Woods landing and a Woods landing put in. I started to see what Forrest did. His stories like around his house, fit by the dairy teaching school. The Totem Cafe caper was Woods landing, the place that had the Cummens city caper. He said the Catcher in the Rye could be about his life, he just needed to change the places and names. That was a hint for us to do the same.
    Last edited by Knowledge; 09-02-2022, 12:46 AM.

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    • #3
      As this was the key to the poem it must be addressed first, the first stanza. Forrest told us the first clue was begin it where warm waters halt and take it in the canyon down, not for but too far to walk. It soon became clear that Forrest thought of a clue as something you matched up with a landmark or something on a map. And a hint was anything that would help you find a definition for the clue. When reading My War For Me and the Crimson poem, I noticed they had the same feel as the beginning of TTOTC treasure poem. A pattern of what Forrest did was forming and I was the first one ever to see it, at least that I know of. So lining up the first stanza with the crimson poem for my war for me, the one thing Forrest made sure anyone and everyone could find online and he also made a point of saying.If nothing else read My war for me. This will come into play with the blaze as well.

      As I have gone alone in there................ Courage wears a crimson coat
      With my treasure bold.......................... Trimmed in trappings bold
      I can keep my secrets where................. Knowledge dons a dress of note
      And hints of riches new and old.............fame's cloth in gold
      begin it where warm water halt..............Far they range and fair they roam
      And take it in the canyon down............Much they do and dare
      not far but too far to walk.....................while gray-gowned patience sits at home
      Put in below the HOB ........................And weaves the cloth they wear

      With that Forrest gives us the word that is key and where he keeps his secret "Knowledge".
      Woods landing being the Totem cafa the grey-haired lady becomes grandma.
      He tells us the poem is from above and starts next to an airport.
      Even the color of the soil is crimson or reddish brown,Jelm Mountain named for the redish brown color, of red ocher.
      They are hints that live on the edges but turn out to be real and true.
      At the HOB is Jelm WY there is a new and an old Jelm
      Last edited by Knowledge; 09-02-2022, 02:29 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Knowledge View Post
        I ask everyone please do not post on this thread, I would like to maintain some continuity with the solution. It is one thing to lay out the path of the poem, and just the basics of the solve. This will take everyone from how WWWH was to be found and the hints in TTOTC that Forrest expected and hoped people would use. He made sure you could not just use one map or only GE. I do not know how anyone could solve it with just the poem. It could be done and if you nailed down wwwh you had a chance. I can't do anything about thoses who won't let go of their solve. I can only show you the real location and how I found it. There was no way Forrest Fenn was leaving this earth without the solver knowing what he did. The man had honor and backbone, he would not let the solver wither on the vine, wondering. PLEASE DO NOT POST ON THIS THREAD THANK YOU.
        that’s not true at all. You don’t even need a map to figure out the solution, u just need a map to figure out what to do when you get to the blaze. And it’s a single map, and the key will tell you which map that is. Everything you need is in that book.

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        • #5
          I am going to put this right here for now in hopes that she is the one who did all that fine work. I know some of the work was done away from the area and brought there. You can see the runners and framing on some sculptors from GE itself. It is far from a fact that she is GG but looking at her work over the last few days there is a good chance. If not for Forrest Fenn she would not even have become a sculpter. Like many Forret hepped make her rich and himself. Lets face it the man was one of a kind. https://youtu.be/WHKzl7imqfU

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          • #6
            Once I found the area the solve was far from understood, because I found the Jelm mountain area before I found wwwh. I saw thing like the observatory that tied back to Forrest and many other things that matched the illustrations and stories in TTOTC. That is when I found something that looked like Teachers with ropes. I saw that within it was a girl that looked to have a coffee cup that covered her face. I got my book TTOTC and saw Forrest brrought up the teachers drinking coffee two times on one page. It stuck me, Forrest wanted the reader to jump back and bring in the two books she hands him, to help understand Teachers with ropes. The great Gatsby and for whom the bell tolls. I already had figured out that Teachers with ropes was the key to wwwh, as Forrest takes the reader backwards from the canyon down all the way to the touching of the bronze being wwwh. TTOTC ends with the DBL Omega and Teachers with ropes is the only chapter with DBL Alpha or Alpha in it two times. The only other time in TTOTC Forrest uses Alpha is when Skippy might be going Alpha, a key hint laters in the solve. So Forrest brings the bell into teachers with ropes. He ended the Bessie story with sometimes teachers do not understand, after falling into a cow pie. He ended Stout-hearted men with cows eating all around him and being at the threshold of his life. So it was starting to become clear using logic and imagination he made a path to his wwwh. So this outcropping was my first clue on how Forrest expected the reader to tie stores together.

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            • #7
              The home of Brown, Jelm mountain, named for the reddish brown color on the NE side. The University of WY has a obsevatory on top school colors brown and gold. The men Forrest knew well worked and ran the school. Kirmet Brown, Doctor Frision, governor Simpson you know the man who could resite the gator poem, all come from the school. The young men and women who worked at San Lazaro from the same school. The observatory sits in the same place the fire lookout once stood. When you hear marvil gaze, dancing with the stars tight focus, under a canopy of stars, an obsevatory fits. Then we have the mountain itself that looks like a bear. In fact Forrest had his backyard set up in small scale of the bridge and bear to mirror the spot.

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              • #8
                Knowledge
                I got to break your rules no posting here. Lots of right ideas but wrong place’s especially the BEAR about 300 miles to far south. If you can figure Forrests BEAR out you can walk straight to the nook. I made a mistake in the last sentence figure it out it will help. Where are you from. Clint from Michigan
                Forrest back yard BEAR below. P M me if you want to know more [email protected]

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                • #9
                  We know Forrest had a story about Skippy and his homemade helicopter, and we also know he talks about homemade jams and things in Me in the middle. He also talks about going to the cemetery and he says a kid has a lot of time to think in a graveyard. Let us start with Amela Earhart's record cross-country flight, not in an airplane but in an Autogiro, it is a helicopter-type aircraft and where did she land right next to WWWH.https://kingfm.com/amelia-earhart-pi...-june-of-1931/
                  Then we have Forrest saying a kid has time to think in a graveyard, he is tieing the location to Teacher with ropes again. And the illustration in TTOTC matches up with the airport named in memoriam for a general.

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                  HOW DEEP IS A HOLE, LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE = THE BIG HOLLOW, the airport is 600 miles away from f home airport.
                  Last edited by Knowledge; 09-04-2022, 02:27 PM.

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                    I SPOKE WITH THE MAN WHO MADE THE CHASE AND HE CONFIRMED THIS LOCATION. SO STOP TRYING TO UNDERMINE THE TRUTH.


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                    • #11
                      Begin it WWWH and take it in the canyon down, not far but too far to walk, put in below the HOB

                      Starting next to the Dairy teaching school for the university of WY, teachers with ropes with its knot hints tell the reader to take the water. The Pioneer canal when being built was said it was going to make the area the next banana belt. It ends at the North West side of the Laramie river at Woods landing put in.


                      The river is blocked by a gaging station, so you must put in there, you can't get to the river. So you are getting out of the water when many thought you were getting in. The finder took the river, as did the 200-foot early searcher. Doctor Frision and his wife. Sorry folks the finder group and the early 200-foot searcher are the only SEARCHERS TO GET CLOSE. The people who figured out the first two clues just went past all the other clues in this first stage of the solution, as you will soon see. The 500-foot people were not searchers. Forrest chose his words well.

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                      Last edited by Knowledge; 09-15-2022, 06:37 PM.

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                      • #12
                        As you can see it the canal ends on the northwest side, and the river is blocked by a gaging station.

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                        • #13
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                          • #14
                            Now, this is when the solution really starts and man did Forrest take me for a ride. I found out later he read all my emails. I went around the wrong side of the mountain at first, having the wrong wwwh. It fit the poem perfectly. As there is a named draw to the south for ever drawing nigh, and a famous man named Nigh had mines on that side of the mountain. I am sure Forrest LOL as I fell for every trick in front of me. You will see how clever he was soon. Even if you had the right wwwh, and went to woods landing resort instead of the put-in, it would take you the wrong way. When you got to the next clue, From there its no place for the meek the end is ever drawing nigh.

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                            • #15
                              Before moving forward I would like to show you the map from TFTW and how the finder used it to find wwwh. I did not find this and man I wish I did. If you look at the map and picture a man looking to his right, where his kidney would fall is the Big Hollow. Forrest had a kidney stent in the chest, it was one of the things no one knew about. The solve has a wwwh that is real and one that lived in Forrest's imagination. The real warm waters is rain, the rest of the solve is also about his blocked kidney and his cancer, why is it that I must go. Everything was in the book, like he said.

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