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  • There in lies the problem

    Forrest left many many hints to solving his poem, so many in fact that you could get some of them to fit any solve. You still won’t know how many there are when you actually have the correct solution.
    There is not a way to know if your on the right track or just using confirmation bias. Everything is a [boxxcanyon]

  • #2
    Originally posted by Old Pilot
    There's something visual that reminds me of Forrest crying.

    "So hear me all and listen good" -town crier
    (and his Big Horn)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Not4but242Walk View Post


      "So hear me all and listen good" -town crier
      (and his Big Horn)

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      Is there a clue embedded in that visual aid? I think I will give shard stealing a whorl

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sarah Seedling View Post
        Forrest left many many hints to solving his poem, so many in fact that you could get some of them to fit any solve. You still won’t know how many there are when you actually have the correct solution.
        There is not a way to know if your on the right track or just using confirmation bias. Everything is a [boxxcanyon]
        Sarah Seedling There is a solution to the poem and you will know you are on the right track when you begin it correctly, honest! The words TREASURES and RAINBOW hold the clues. If you also acknowledge that there is a simple cipher you need then there is a way to confirm things as you go along. Fenn has used the words: Decipher and Decrypt in his statements about the poem clues.
        If you don't believe me convert the word 'TREASURES' to each letter's number in the alphabet and add them up. You should get 126. Now locate the only page in the book where you see a photo of the chest and its treasures and check the Page number.

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        • #5
          I'm not trying to be mean concerning Big Horns, Town Criers, Treasure Page Numbers, or Holy Revelations and how they may relate to a solve, but (personally) I'll stick with Pat Robertson's flagship television program for now. Three hints removed from a clue is better than nothing.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sarah Seedling View Post
            Forrest left many many hints to solving his poem, so many in fact that you could get some of them to fit any solve. You still won’t know how many there are when you actually have the correct solution.
            There is not a way to know if your on the right track or just using confirmation bias. Everything is a [boxxcanyon]
            If every hint did not lead you to the clues to solve the poem, then your path was wrong.
            You can file this information under Misc in your trash can. F

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            • #7
              Originally posted by JacksBeer88W

              If I'm at the Capitol and I'm supposed to meet someone at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, does it really make much difference which route I take, as long as I get there? If the directions include visual references and I see a reference in the distance before the one in the step I'm on, does it make a difference if I don't go to the one near me before proceeding. It's not like a game of baseball where you have to tag every base...

              The difference in your synopsis is you know the end location. Lets say you didn't know the end location but by hints and clues.
              Would you not follow all of them too get to the end location?
              You can file this information under Misc in your trash can. F

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              • #8
                Originally posted by JacksBeer88W

                Okay. So maybe you don't know the end location. Let's say, however, you've received a 911 call from an aged man with dementia who is lucid enough to tell you he's badly cut his foot and needs help. He tells you he doesn't know exactly what route (right or left turns) he took to get to where he is, but he remembers passing some landmarks. He tells you he walked down a busy street with lots of stores and restaurants. He saw a big, blue "M".. He remembers a marina and a sign with the word Sunset on it and he remembers taking some stairs down toward a beach. A few hundred yards down the beach, he cut himself and is seated on a driftwood log.
                When you reach out to the police officers, they drive to the nearby marina, get in the police boat, head out the channel to the lake and, just before they reach the Sunset Hills neighborhood beach, see the old man sitting on the log. They didn't need to follow the old man's route completely and the did not need to know what the "M" was because the marina, the word Sunset, and the beach gave them the clues they needed.
                The rescue team had prior knowledge of where the locations were to determine his location. If they did not have prior knowledge of the locations they would not have found him.

                So regardless, at some point they learned the locations to take the shortcut. If going boots on the ground the first time, do you return to the very beginning every time there after. No, since you already know the locations and what they mean. On your return trip you go to where you last were. But if you had not found all the hints and clues in previous trips then you're prob on the wrong path. Not just some of the hints and clues, all of them.
                Last edited by Livinlifebig; 08-28-2022, 06:16 PM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JacksBeer88W

                  Did you go boots on the ground before thoroughly doing an online recon? If you did, I'd say that was foolish. Looking at everything Forrest put out in public, a good searcher should be able to sift out hints (from all possible sources: books, interviews, videos) that help refine a logically reasoned whittling down of locations. The rescuers in my example have area knowledge. A smart search should learn as much as he/she could of the terrain in the area(s) they are considering for BOTG.
                  I don't know what you are getting at? but google earth and or whatever does not appear as what it shows you in comparison to actually bring there.

                  And, No shit about a smart searcher dude understanding the terrain before they go out.. What's your point? And yes, all hints and clues, this means all video and written form

                  Were you x military? With extensive cross country navigation experience???? ... If yes, then stop trying to school me. If not, then mind your own. I'm pretty sure I could run circles around in the backwoods with just a compass and map.

                  Stop wasting my time within your nonsense....
                  Last edited by Livinlifebig; 08-28-2022, 09:03 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Livinlifebig View Post

                    I don't know what you are getting at? but google earth and or whatever does not appear as what it shows you in comparison to actually bring there.

                    And, No shit about a smart searcher dude understanding the terrain before they go out.. What's your point? And yes, all hints and clues, this means all video and written form

                    Were you x military? With extensive cross country navigation experience???? ... If yes, then stop trying to school me. If not, then mind your own. I'm pretty sure I could run circles around in the backwoods with just a compass and map.

                    Stop wasting my time within your nonsense....
                    Not only do I like it,I wonder how many people could be dropped in the wilderness with a map and a compass and find there way back to where someone left their sedan?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by JacksBeer88W

                      If I'm at the Capitol and I'm supposed to meet someone at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, does it really make much difference which route I take, as long as I get there? If the directions include visual references and I see a reference in the distance before the one in the step I'm on, does it make a difference if I don't go to the one near me before proceeding. It's not like a game of baseball where you have to tag every base...

                      What if the spot is in a box canyon that can only be approached from the south? (Up.) And, the terrain requires you to cross the creek twice (brave the cold)? Oh, and the name of the canyon pertains to heavy loads? This, and more, explained in my book. That Fenn was a clever clever man.

                      www.FennPoint.com

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JacksBeer88W

                        Went through the CIA Career Trainee program in 1990 doing land nav and night nav with just a compass, map, red light filter flashlight. Also introduced to how to navigate in the daytime without a compass, just using a watch and map. Rusty, but really enjoyed learning it, so was happy to use it during The Chase. Using logic, reasoning, and target analysis (in this case biographic analysis) are not nonsense.
                        Then we have an understanding.
                        Last edited by Livinlifebig; 08-28-2022, 09:17 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sarah Seedling View Post

                          Not only do I like it,I wonder how many people could be dropped in the wilderness with a map and a compass and find there way back to where someone left their sedan?
                          I for one.
                          You can file this information under Misc in your trash can. F

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sarah Seedling View Post

                            Not only do I like it,I wonder how many people could be dropped in the wilderness with a map and a compass and find there way back to where someone left their sedan?
                            Depends on who hid the sedan.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rose Livingstone View Post
                              Depends on who hid the sedan.
                              June 17th, 2016 (Mysterious writings)

                              Dear Forrest, may I ask what type of car you used to go into the mountains to hide the Treasure Chest. ~ Bill

                              Yes Bill, it was a sedan. f


                              Smart, he didn't answer the question what kind of car he was using but did describe the shape of the 'Treasure Chest' (in capital letters).

                              Real Fenntalk, I hadn't seen it that way before. Thanks 'Rose'.

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