reasons why the solve hasn't come out?

[Trailblazer99]

Oops, I derailed this thread. Sorry, just being silly. I'll say something about reasons why the solve hasn't come out.

-The "solve" is out, or most of it, but isn't believed by many. (9MH or others)
-The poem is solved by someone other than Jack, and they think it would be a waste of time and effort to convince everyone without an actual TC in hand.
-Is the poem actually solved?
-Jack has solved it but is involved in litigation. Best not to say anything at this time.
-Jack wants to protect this spot for reasons only he knows.
-It's possible that there's a different solver, but this person doesn't know they are the solver.
-Forrest ended the Chase for reasons unknown.
-There is not an actual solve/solution to this poem.
-There was no TC to be found, but it was a lure for unknown reasons.

Whatever the reason, I believe there is an actual solution to Forrest's poem that leads somewhere, and that this poem was designed by an architect. I believe in Forrest and that he was a maverick who had in a message he wanted to metaphorically "paint" out on a unique canvas. I believe that his paint is still wet, and that this Chase was bigger than a hunt for gold.

I think EVERYTHING has been suspect for the past 2 years and that "nothing is what it seems". This is why I haven't really been involved in many of these threads recently, because it distracts from poem solving. The 9MH solve just doesn't feel like it would take 15 years to write, and that 10 or 11(?) things had to go right to pull this off (paraphrased).

So I'm still going to try to solve this poem up until I believe the real solution is released, if it ever does.

all very good points thanks for getting back on the subject. i like the way you think. i can 100% agree with your last bit of the statements and the possibilities you mentioned are actually possible. it seems forrest favorite saying "nothing is as it seems" is very very true.

[Trailblazer99]

Your use of the word "architect" almost had me winking (hee hee!). Fenn, I believe, was more religious than he wanted to clearly/boldly admit. So he used words that religious people use, such as "architect". I say that because some (perhaps many) religious people believe that "God is the great architect of the universe".
Thoughts like that wear me quickly down.

me too op me too.

[Trailblazer99]

June 6th is too early in the search season (due to muddy ground).

i was out june 6th wrapping up my solve and sending fenn pictures and details. not a lot of people were though. they were all booking their trips and still planning. so in other words "not moving with determination"

[Hoof Hearted]

i was out june 6th wrapping up my solve and sending fenn pictures and details. not a lot of people were though. they were all booking their trips and still planning. so in other words "not moving with determination"

As was I on that fateful day, BOTG to a new location where the solution finally put an X on the map...

[Strawshadow]

The Great Dust Bowl

[shyorphan]

No. The "solve" (hate that stupid misuse of a word) has not come out because the creator of the puzzle is dead and the finder said from the beginning he wouldn't reveal the solution. If they are the only two people on the planet who know/knew the solution with absolute certainty, then our current stasis should really come as no surprise. No government agency can force the solver to reveal the solution against his will, nor can any third party filing a lawsuit.

Alleged finder. Jack 100% has no clue what the solve is.

[Zapster]

Alleged finder. Jack 100% has no clue what the solve is.

Well, let's call Jack the alleged retriever, which more addresses actions as opposed to methodology. If he hadn't completely solved the poem (or even if he had solved none of it), but was instructed precisely where to retrieve it, learning the location itself might be sufficient to reverse-engineer the solution. I will agree with you that there was nothing in the messages that Jack shared with us that gave me any confidence he had a completely homegrown end-to-end solution. Quite the reverse.

[Space Hopper]

Alleged finder. Jack 100% has no clue what the solve is.

Neither do you, but I see no-one complaining.

[shyorphan]

Neither do you, but I see no-one complaining.

I 100% know what the solve is which is why I can say what I said without equivocation lol.

[shyorphan]

Well, let's call Jack the alleged retriever, which more addresses actions as opposed to methodology. If he hadn't completely solved the poem (or even if he had solved none of it), but was instructed precisely where to retrieve it, learning the location itself might be sufficient to reverse-engineer the solution. I will agree with you that there was nothing in the messages that Jack shared with us that gave me any confidence he had a completely homegrown end-to-end solution. Quite the reverse.

I don't know if he retrieved it or not. Not enough information to say. We do know Forrest crowned him the winner. That's it.

[Livinlifebig]

I don't know if he retrieved it or not. Not enough information to say. We do know Forrest crowned him the winner. That's it.

Forrest did not Crown him the winner, in fact Forrest did not even congratulate the finder. Shiloh Crowned him...

They needed it closed.

Who, Who Who

[Space Hopper]

I 100% know what the solve is which is why I can say what I said without equivocation lol.

There's a hundred more just like you, but like all others, here you are with no chest in sight or hand.

[shyorphan]

There's a hundred more just like you, but like all others, here you are with no chest in sight or hand.

True. The question is did Forrest leave something behind (i.e. proof) so that the solver could eventually divulge his ingenious work of art to the world? The fact that the first picture shown of the TC contained useful information to guide me gives me hope.

[Space Hopper]

True. The question is did Forrest leave something behind (i.e. proof) so that the solver could eventually divulge his ingenious work of art to the world? The fact that the first picture shown of the TC contained useful information to guide me gives me hope.

Good luck on that one...

[shyorphan]

Good luck on that one...

Luck has nothing to do with it. Did Forrest want the solve revealed is the only variable or did he bury it with his ending?