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  • Toby Younis joins us LIVE!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kba-a7WD8kk

  • #2
    Yes, and no disrespect Toby but you aren’t making any sense with your outside of YNP theory. If it was somewhere outside YNP then she would have chosen someone at the specific areas jurisdiction like Sinks Canyon in Lander but she didn’t. She chose to go to the location with another YNP ranger. Why? Simple, because they were both in YNP and so was the chest.

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    • #3
      No way YNP is that on their game that they initiated contact with Jack or Fenn. No way! Fenn or Jack via legal counsel initiated contact.

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      • #4
        The guy who dug up grave sites in a cemetery in National park Is viewed completely differently than Jack prying a 10 x 10 chest out of the ground. Anyone attempting to make comparisons is pursuing their own agenda.

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        • #5
          I promise you Sarah Davis documented any disciplinary decisions regarding the August 2020 meeting. Everything was documented just not disclosed to public.

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          • #6
            Mike was spot on when he said Forrest was gonna do what he wanted to do if he decided to hide the chest in the park. He was adamant that he was going to make it work wherever it was he made his mind up about where the chest should be

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            • #7
              Wow, all really good points yall!
              “Positivity triumphs over negativity” - famous quote by the famous Cowlazars 2018

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              • #8
                What would Toby make of the chest being here?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by lowkey View Post
                  Mike was spot on when he said Forrest was gonna do what he wanted to do if he decided to hide the chest in the park. He was adamant that he was going to make it work wherever it was he made his mind up about where the chest should be
                  Strongly agree.

                  In TTOTC when describing the origin of the idea to hide the chest he said he "knew exactly where to hide it so it would be difficult to find but not impossible". Later he did say he was going to make it work no matter what and never changed his mind about the spot (if I recall correctly he said those things in the Moby Dickens interview among other times).

                  Toby said tonight that he thought Fenn said he consulted a lawyer about the location before hiding it and before publishing his memoir. But if Toby was referring to that CBS Sunday Morning interview titled on Youtube "Who's the rightful owner of a found treasure?", he may have jumped to a wrong conclusion about what Fenn said. Apologies to Toby if he has another source for that.

                  In that interview, Fenn never said he consulted a lawyer *before* deciding where to hide the chest, or before actually hiding it. He implies that by saying he had his lawyer investigate the issues on different types of land. But notice he only knew specifics about what to do if it was found in a national park, namely the finder is required to turn it in to the park superintendent, very specific. He knew only vague generalities about other types of land "The rules are different if you find it on private property. If you find it on Indian land it really gets complicated."

                  I suspect he hid it right where he wanted, in Yellowstone, then later, when he was about to publish TTOTC he decided to pay a lawyer to consider the issues for the searchers on the actual type of land where he hid it. They might have told Fenn he broke the law hiding it there, which Fenn would have shrugged off. And the lawyer might have recommended he advise a potential finder they need to turn it in if found in a national park. Very cleverly Fenn phrased his answers in that interview to imply he asked his lawyers about the land issues before hiding it, so he could reveal the advice about national parks in a way that didn't give away that it was hidden in one.

                  That interview could be one of the slip-ups Jack said Fenn made.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by bartleby View Post

                    Strongly agree.

                    In TTOTC when describing the origin of the idea to hide the chest he said he "knew exactly where to hide it so it would be difficult to find but not impossible". Later he did say he was going to make it work no matter what and never changed his mind about the spot (if I recall correctly he said those things in the Moby Dickens interview among other times).

                    Toby said tonight that he thought Fenn said he consulted a lawyer about the location before hiding it and before publishing his memoir. But if Toby was referring to that CBS Sunday Morning interview titled on Youtube "Who's the rightful owner of a found treasure?", he may have jumped to a wrong conclusion about what Fenn said. Apologies to Toby if he has another source for that.

                    In that interview, Fenn never said he consulted a lawyer *before* deciding where to hide the chest, or before actually hiding it. He implies that by saying he had his lawyer investigate the issues on different types of land. But notice he only knew specifics about what to do if it was found in a national park, namely the finder is required to turn it in to the park superintendent, very specific. He knew only vague generalities about other types of land "The rules are different if you find it on private property. If you find it on Indian land it really gets complicated."

                    I suspect he hid it right where he wanted, in Yellowstone, then later, when he was about to publish TTOTC he decided to pay a lawyer to consider the issues for the searchers on the actual type of land where he hid it. They might have told Fenn he broke the law hiding it there, which Fenn would have shrugged off. And the lawyer might have recommended he advise a potential finder they need to turn it in if found in a national park. Very cleverly Fenn phrased his answers in that interview to imply he asked his lawyers about the land issues before hiding it, so he could reveal the advice about national parks in a way that didn't give away that it was hidden in one.

                    That interview could be one of the slip-ups Jack said Fenn made.
                    Mr. Fenn did not make 1 slip up EVER EVER EVER . If he did , you would be able to state it here today . But you can't. And nobody else can .

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                    • #11
                      That was a good show and worth paying attention to.

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