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    I first heard about Forrest Fenn's treasure on Jan 9, 2021 while reading a blog dedicated to unlocking the mystery of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370. In a comment on the blog, a user warned others about the dangers of cognitive bias. He wrote:

    "I’d like to recommend an interesting vid. Recently the identity of the man who found the Forrest Fenn treasure was revealed. He had put out a video on his thinking about cognitive bias, not long before he traveled to his deduced location and directly found the chest of gold. The crux of his thinking was that he was not up against a puzzle master or genius of deception, but merely needed to take all the clues at their face value without layering on any complexity. By keeping his cognitive biases in check, he succeeded in a very short time where thousands of others had failed, including several who lost their lives trying."

    I was hooked, despite the fact that the treasure had already been found, the finder identified, and Forrest Fenn had passed away. The solution to the poem was still a mystery, so the opportunity to solve it remained.

    It's not fair to compare my situation with that of real searchers -- those who were on the hunt while the treasure was still up for grabs. Jack's cognitive bias video was the very first thing I consumed in relation to the chase; it primed me to avoid cognitive bias before expending an ounce of energy on the hunt. Real searchers didn't have that luxury.

    Using the poem and the stories in The Thrill of The Chase, I compiled a potential solve by the end of January. I considered a few different places, but my best guess placed the treasure somewhere south of the Madison River near the fishing spot known as Nine Mile Hole.

    I had vague ideas about the blaze, but they failed to grow into anything specific over the next three months. During that time, I began listening to ideas that searchers had shared since the start of the chase. It became apparent that many of the elements in my solve were old news; they were things that many searchers had been discussing for a long, long time.

    Collectively, I believe searchers had many of the correct answers, and merely failed to piece them all together in just the right way. On May 1, I published that thesis in the thread titled Everything But The Blaze -- Madison (Nine Mile Hole). I was anticipating that news of the true solve might emerge in early June, following the first anniversary of the find date.

    That didn't happen, but by then, I was interacting with users here on THOR and having fun. Elements of the solve were challenged, as it should be, but I felt like there was a reasonable answer to every concern. I was unable to visit Nine Mile Hole, but I was hopeful that the damaged blaze could be found there by enterprising searchers of similar mind.

    Nearly five months after publishing that piece, irrefutable proof of the blaze near Nine Mile Hole has not been proffered; it's an unfortunate reality that the blaze may have been damaged beyond recognition. Personally, I'm satisfied with how the clues in the poem and stories in TTOTC fit with the area. I'm confident enough it was Forrest's special place.

    As a latecomer to the chase, it's easy for me to move on from it. I appreciate that it's immensely more difficult for people who invested years of their time, and considerable dollars, in this pursuit. Some of those people have been able to find closure with the Nine Mile solve. I admire and applaud them for being open-minded.

    Others will never accept it, and that's okay. For them, the chase may be more about the process than about the solution. Forrest said it himself with his oft-repeated quote: "They never knew it was the chase they sought, and not the quarry." I wish them well.

    All of this to say that I probably won't be posting very much on THOR any more. I'm satisfied with my answers. If I helped a handful of people reach the same place, I'm glad. Thanks to all of you who shared ideas, debated thoughtfully, and tracked down clues. I won't name anyone specifically, for fear of leaving anybody out, but I trust you all know who you are.

    I'll drop in from time to time to see if there's any breaking news, and I'll spiral in to different YouTube chats every now and then.

    --Vertigo

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    Last edited by Vertigo; 10-26-2021, 05:33 PM.

  • #2
    Very Cool story bro !! We appreciate it . Bummer to see you go . Good luck to you in any of your future endeavors !

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    • #3
      You should have put the chest in that fellers hands that is spiraling out of control for a more accurate depiction.

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      • #4
        Bummer to see you go; I enjoyed your contributions a ton. Good night and good luck.

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        • #5
          Respect given.

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          • #6
            A correct solving method would have someone "spiraling in". Thank you all for posting.

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            • #7
              Thanks Vertigo. I appreciate all the work you put into this. You definitely convinced me that 9MH is the correct area.

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              • #8
                What a small world we have here. You read a comment by Ed Anderson on a blog about MH370, mentioning the cognitive bias video and Ed Anderson shortly after he posted Stuefs' cognitive bias video as a comment on another MH370 blog. What are the chances of that?

                https://globusmax.wordpress.com/2020...-solve-part-1/

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                You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

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                • #9
                  https://youtu.be/vYgUPD2khtw

                  It's somewhat astonishing you discovered the hunt on Jan 9 2021, then came here and posted your solve a few months later, only to have it become "confirmed."

                  Congratulations. You're even better than Jack. Tough luck you discovered the hunt so late. You could have had it, eh?
                  You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CRM114 View Post
                    What a small world we have here. You read a comment by Ed Anderson on a blog about MH370, mentioning the cognitive bias video and Ed Anderson shortly after he posted Stuefs' cognitive bias video as a comment on another MH370 blog. What are the chances of that?

                    https://globusmax.wordpress.com/2020...-solve-part-1/

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                    The chances are pretty good, I think. It seems Anderson posted about the cognitive bias video on one MH370 blog the day Jack revealed his identity. He posted about it again on another MH370 blog about a month later, and that's the one that introduced me to the Chase.

                    Thanks for the link. I was familiar with GlobusMax from various MH370 blogs, but never knew he was into the Forrest Fenn treasure. It was fun to read Part 1 of his solve. I checked his blog archives and it appears he never posted any subsequent parts of the solve.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Vertigo View Post

                      The chances are pretty good, I think. It seems Anderson posted about the cognitive bias video on one MH370 blog the day Jack revealed his identity. He posted about it again on another MH370 blog about a month later, and that's the one that introduced me to the Chase.

                      Thanks for the link. I was familiar with GlobusMax from various MH370 blogs, but never knew he was into the Forrest Fenn treasure. It was fun to read Part 1 of his solve. I checked his blog archives and it appears he never posted any subsequent parts of the solve.
                      He will, he's a little slow.
                      You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

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                      • #12
                        Hey Vertigo, I missed this post last September. Your message seems to be full of subterfuge and you are making us dizzy.

                        You sound somewhat like a nooker who does not want us to know you are a nooker.

                        I find it unlikely that anyone would join the Chase after the chest was found and put time and effort into finding the location.

                        In my opinion, you are being deceitful and are trying to get us to believe something that is unbelievable...except for a few.

                        You remind me of Packer Jack. A highly successful man joins the hunt right before it is found, and then begins helping unfold a fictional story. The chest being sold to an Entity that turns out to be Justin Posey. Are you in league with Packer Jack and Justin?

                        "Nothing is as it seems". f

                        IMO

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CRM114 View Post
                          https://youtu.be/vYgUPD2khtw

                          It's somewhat astonishing you discovered the hunt on Jan 9 2021, then came here and posted your solve a few months later, only to have it become "confirmed."

                          Congratulations. You're even better than Jack. Tough luck you discovered the hunt so late. You could have had it, eh?
                          Who knows? I think I would have searched the woods south of 9MH until I either found the chest or spent my available search budget. I can't imagine I would have searched anywhere else.

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                          • #14
                            Sanjuro is better than Yojimbo The Hidden Fortress is next. It's where George Lucas got the idea for the Death Star.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Vertigo View Post

                              Who knows? I think I would have searched the woods south of 9MH until I either found the chest or spent my available search budget. I can't imagine I would have searched anywhere else.
                              Well, a lot of things change after your first search. I've been all over the Rockies my whole life, but mostly looking at stuff, or having fun, not looking for stuff. Once you focus on scouring an area for stuff, you start noticing odd things. You suddenly notice spent shell casings from hunters, old pull tabs, sign of humans everywhere in a place you thought was relatively pristine and isolated.

                              Then you start wondering if it was buried. Once you go there, you have to consider that Forrest, unless he was sadistic, defined a very small spot as accurately as he could in that case. That makes all sorts of sense from a "not stumble upon" perspective. I think the dirt caked around the rim of the chest in the photos verifies that is basically what happened.

                              So if it's buried, you either have to be willing to use a metal detector or consider there is some mark for it. It's not going to be a mark that draws attention from non-searchers, so you'd likely have to figure out what it is. Even a 50 by 50 foot area in a bunch of trees seems daunting under those circumstances. A clear mark is probably necessary.

                              All the while you're considering the surety of your solve, and what you truly know vs what you think you know, and going over everything again and again. Think of it as looking for a needle in a haystack like MH370.

                              At least that's how it was for me.
                              Last edited by CRM114; 11-21-2021, 04:33 PM.
                              You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

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