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  • High noon, oh I'd sell my soul for water
    Nine years worth of breakin' my back
    There's no sun in the shadow of the wizard
    See how he glides, why he's lighter than air
    Oh I see his face!

    Where is your star?
    Is it far, is it far, is it far?

    We build a tower of stone
    With our flesh and bone
    Just to see him fly
    But don't know why
    Now where do we go?

    Hot wind, moving fast across the desert
    We feel that our time has arrived
    The world spins, while we put his dream together
    A tower of stone to take him straight to the sky
    Oh I see his face!

    All eyes see the figure of the wizard
    As he climbs to the top of the world

    Look at my flesh and bone
    Now, look, look, look, look,
    Look at his tower of stone
    I see a rainbow rising
    Look there, on the horizon
    And I'm coming home

    Where is your star?

    ~Rainbow~
    Stargazer
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    marvel gaze sounds like starstruck, to me.
    just like Forrest was when meeting DD.

    I've gone down untold paths looking at the poem, keeping in mind, the motive that fueled the very beginning.
    It all goes back to a rebel who refuses to color within the lines, a maverick.
    He would take it with him. That'll teach them !
    Now, where would he hide a body ?
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    A genuine treasure map shows a mark where you'll find the treasure.
    If the poem is the map to the treasure, then the poem is marked.
    Where is the poem marked at ?

    The blaze, in association with light, is an attractive view.
    The blaze is the real star of the show.
    Where is the star of the poem ?

    The star of the poem is the capital Brown.

    It stands out. It is noticed. It is questioned.
    It is curious.
    Brown is the star, that makes it a Brown star.
    A brown star is a dwarf.
    Brown dwarfs the other characters.

    dwarf - "A legendary creature resembling a tiny old man; lives in the depths of the earth and guards buried treasure.
    https://www.classicthesaurus.com/dwarf/define
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Hh7vdCsvJg





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    • https://youtu.be/0u9TFMzPoOA

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      • Originally posted by minotaur_moreno View Post

        The Denver Museum hint(?) has always bothered me. Is Douglas Preston in on it or is he not? If ‘two can keep a secret...’ is really how Mr. Fenn feels, why should we listen to anything Preston says?

        mm
        Douglas Preston and Mr. Fenn are like two peas in a pod, they both wear there character on there sleeves. So to the end, who else would you rather ride the trail with?

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        • Originally posted by TreasureCodex View Post

          The first time Forrest mentions the Denver Natural History Museum was in his very first blog on Aug 24 2000

          https://www.oldsantafetradingco.com/...-indiana-jones
          We all wear our merits in different ways. Some may choose to share accomplished ideas while others may choose to share accomplishments. If I were to listen good it wouldn’t be gauged by the size on the ears. Perhaps the lesson best learned is number 5...lighten up and don’t get carried away by your importance.

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          • ROFLMAO.

            How 'bout them apples ?!
            https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/chas...ted-t2901.html

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            • Originally posted by ROLL TIDE View Post
              I see the domain forwarding. But the other domains links don't work.
              It would make sense as the ego would fit

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              • Geography.

                It seems that there are those who assume that they know exactly what Forrest means when he stresses the importance of this subject.
                They'll tell you that it means this, and that it doesn't mean that.
                But at the end of the day, they leave themselves open to skepticism.

                Has Forrest Fenn ever defined his use of "geography" ?
                If not, then how can anyone say that he favors this branch of geography over that branch of geography ?

                Forrest said "a comprehensive knowledge of geography". To my knowledge, he never spoke of any particular branch of geography in relation to this comment.

                So, which branch of geography, or which sub-discipline of those branches does he endorse over any of the others ?

                Human Geography
                Physical Geography
                Regional geography
                Cartography
                Integrated geography

                On a conclusive note, geography is a very wide subject and this is why it is comprised of numerous sub-disciplines within it. There are other branches within this science that have not been discussed and some of the notable ones include: Geographic education, historical geography,
                GIS (Geographic Information Systems)
                ,
                remote sensing
                , and quantitative methods. There are some branches in geography which are generally interrelated very closely to others but there are others that have very different principalities in place.
                https://www.geographyrealm.com/what-...-of-geography/

                Sub-branches of Human Geography
                https://www.geographyrealm.com/sub-b...man-geography/

                Sub-branches of Physical Geography
                https://www.geographyrealm.com/sub-b...cal-geography/

                Rocks, ocean currents, waves, tides, mountains, rivers, climate . . . take your pick.

                And lest I forget . . .
                "
                Linguistic geography can also refer to studies of how people talk about the landscape."
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_geography

                Now, please feel free to choose a branch that fits your narrative and show me how your choice has yielded any more results than my choice has.

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                • Aspects of linguistic geography are most interesting from my pov, but it goes further than that. I've always thought in itself TTOTC was aberrant. It's a textualized oral tradition. There are elements in its vignettes that are clearly not factual but certainly could be considered non-literal truths to the teller. Whether this hybridized representation of place through poiesis occurs in the poem, however, is anybody's guess. I tend to think it does not.

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                  • Forrest is a nature lover. That much can't be disputed.
                    ". . . all of us are environmentalists to some degree, and me more than most. "
                    (pg 4, TTOTC )
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                    COPYRIGHT 2011 University of Chicago
                    No portion of this article can be reproduced without the express written permission from the copyright holder.
                    Copyright 2011 Gale, Cengage Learning. All rights reserved.
                    https://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+f...s.-a0272616966
                    Interesting article illustrating thoughts on ecopoetry.
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                    I tend to see the poem as ecopoetic.
                    Seeing it this way gives me a comprehensive knowledge of geography.
                    Last edited by ROLL TIDE; 08-12-2019, 07:24 PM. Reason: Copyright

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                    • Originally posted by ROLL TIDE View Post
                      Forrest is a nature lover. That much can't be disputed.
                      ". . . all of us are environmentalists to some degree, and me more than most. "
                      (pg 4, TTOTC )
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                      "Some of the questions we might ask are: Who becomes responsible for separating the Real from ideology? Does that attempt lead us back to a notion of prelinguistic, primordial reality unstructured by language? Is there a way to perceive "the Real" transparently, without depending on deeply problematic translations of the world into word? Is there any foundational Reality apart from our constitutive and perspectival translation of it?"

                      "Because its meanings are neither quantitative nor verifiable, poetry may offer different, subtler, and more complex expressions than the language of information and commerce."

                      "I myself am less interested in "nature poetry"--where nature features as theme--than in poetry, sometimes called ecopoetry, that investigates--both thematically and formally--the relationship between nature and culture, language and perception."
                      https://www.thefreelibrary.com/The+f...s.-a0272616966
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                      I tend to see the poem as ecopoetic.
                      Seeing it this way gives me a comprehensive knowledge of geography.
                      The Ancient Egyptians had a good grasp of the natural world via informational notation. They had a separate translations fore numbers other than accounting. Certainly hieroglyphics served as an understanding of the natural world. The pictographs of the ancient Hebrews were actually portions of larger pictographs and can be reassembled to show the original pictographs. These particular pictographs were for the language to build the world/societies. And enslave the societies thru religion. So effective that it is still going on till this very day. Just because people have been insulated from the information/understandings does not mean they don't exist.



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                      So there is the name Zion in the two letters at the top.
                      And the combination of the 2 form a pictograph of a snail.
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                      • Jon: “I’ve also read that you wrote the treasure hunt for an unemployed redneck with 12 kids. Does this mean that all of those people who are delving into Native American history, Greek mythology etc. are looking too deeply? Can hunters really get to the treasure location with just a good map, the poem, and a decent knowledge of words?”

                        FF: “I wrote the book for everyone who feels a sense of wanderlust. In your last question if you change the last word to geography, my answer would be yes.”
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                        In your last question if you substitute words, my answer would be yes.
                        If you substitute your word with my word.
                        Words are language. Change 'words' to 'geography'.

                        Change the word.
                        Change words.
                        Change the language.

                        Can hunters really get to the treasure location with just a good map, the poem, and a decent knowledge of geography ?
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_geography

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                        • so the pictures will come?

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                          • koyannisquatsi…

                            https://youtu.be/8bNDVVUTGpw

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                            • iAN RaNDOM THOUGHTS.

                              https://youtu.be/YVEgxYnQIxw

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                              • Originally posted by ROLL TIDE View Post
                                Jon: “I’ve also read that you wrote the treasure hunt for an unemployed redneck with 12 kids. Does this mean that all of those people who are delving into Native American history, Greek mythology etc. are looking too deeply? Can hunters really get to the treasure location with just a good map, the poem, and a decent knowledge of words?”
                                FF: “I wrote the book for everyone who feels a sense of wanderlust. In your last question if you change the last word to geography, my answer would be yes.”
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                                In your last question if you substitute words, my answer would be yes.
                                If you substitute your word with my word.
                                Words are language. Change 'words' to 'geography'.

                                Change the word.
                                Change words.
                                Change the language.


                                Can hunters really get to the treasure location with just a good map, the poem, and a decent knowledge of geography ?
                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_geography

                                Do people really understand what geography is ?

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geography

                                " Geography is often defined in terms of two branches: human geography and physical geography.[4][5] Human geography deals with the study of people and their communities, cultures, economies, and interactions with the environment by studying their relations with and across space and place.[6] Physical geography deals with the study of processes and patterns in the natural environment like the atmosphere, hydrosphere, biosphere, and geosphere. "

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_geography

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrosphere

                                Even more so people ignore the meaning of wanderlust it seems.

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanderlust
                                Last edited by TreasureCodex; 08-12-2019, 09:20 PM.

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