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  • Originally posted by Zapster View Post
    I still ponder: how is NMH worthy of a sticky page to the exclusion of far better solutions?
    I wish more searchers would provide a sticky note solution. Most don’t, instead, they right 10 pages trying to explain and rationalize their solution to the point of irrationality. The one thing the NMH solution has going for it is you can actually put it on a sticky note just as FF said you should do.

    Sticky Note:
    MJ
    MC
    NMH
    cross river
    walk up dry creek
    find the freaking blaze.

    So maybe we can start a sticky note movement. I just named that tune in 6 notes. Maybe all of those other great solutions can be shared in 6 notes or less. The challenge has been laid down. This is supposed to be fun so keep it fun.

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    • Originally posted by Ozzy View Post

      I wish more searchers would provide a sticky note solution. Most don’t, instead, they right 10 pages trying to explain and rationalize their solution to the point of irrationality. The one thing the NMH solution has going for it is you can actually put it on a sticky note just as FF said you should do.

      Sticky Note:
      MJ
      MC
      NMH
      cross river
      walk up dry creek
      find the freaking blaze.

      So maybe we can start a sticky note movement. I just named that tune in 6 notes. Maybe all of those other great solutions can be shared in 6 notes or less. The challenge has been laid down. This is supposed to be fun so keep it fun.
      That's actually a good idea. Start a thread and I'm in.

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      • Originally posted by Ozzy View Post

        I wish more searchers would provide a sticky note solution. Most don’t, instead, they right 10 pages trying to explain and rationalize their solution to the point of irrationality. The one thing the NMH solution has going for it is you can actually put it on a sticky note just as FF said you should do.

        Sticky Note:
        MJ
        MC
        NMH
        cross river
        walk up dry creek
        find the freaking blaze.

        So maybe we can start a sticky note movement. I just named that tune in 6 notes. Maybe all of those other great solutions can be shared in 6 notes or less. The challenge has been laid down. This is supposed to be fun so keep it fun.
        The blaze isn't there. Remember the title of this thread? By the way, do you really believe that MJ qualifies as a place WWWH? If so, why?

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        • Originally posted by Old Pilot View Post

          The blaze isn't there. Remember the title of this thread? By the way, do you really believe that MJ qualifies as a place WWWH? If so, why?
          1. Rumor that the video referenced in current lawsuit documents is of FF saying Firehole river was the correct Warm Waters. So I believe that rumor will in time prove to be fact and 2. that was my WWWH on several search trips. It makes sense to me because both Firehole and Gibbon (both geothermal rivers) end at Madison Junction and Madison River begins at MJ (not a geothermal river) so to me Firehole and Gibbon are warm waters relative to Madison and they both end where the Madison begins. So rumor and logic have me leaning hard to MJ as WWWH. Hope that makes logical sense.

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          • But Madison Junction is not contiguous with Madison Canyon. That's why I still say the Yellowstone Caldera boundary (where it crosses the Madison) is a better WWWH if one is trying to force-fit 9MH.

            But the fact that a clear, unambiguous, universally searcher-agreed WWWH cannot be determined if you start at 9MH and work backwards tells me something is amiss. It would also conflict with a Q&A where Forrest said you could do just that: reverse engineer WWWH from (I believe) home of Brown.

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            • Originally posted by Zapster View Post
              But Madison Junction is not contiguous with Madison Canyon. That's why I still say the Yellowstone Caldera boundary (where it crosses the Madison) is a better WWWH if one is trying to force-fit 9MH.

              But the fact that a clear, unambiguous, universally searcher-agreed WWWH cannot be determined if you start at 9MH and work backwards tells me something is amiss. It would also conflict with a Q&A where Forrest said you could do just that: reverse engineer WWWH from (I believe) home of Brown.
              You and I are the only ones that see this, it appears. Add that Forrest said if you don't have WWWH, you don't have anything.

              But in the NMH solution, just throw "yellowstone Caldera", "Madison Junction," "Firehole" and "Continental Divide" in a hat and randomly pick one. There's your wwwh. It doesn't matter which one it is, unless you're trying to make every Forrest quote work. You still end up at NMH. You could have the wrong one according to Forrest. NMH assumes Forrest messed up really badly.
              You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

              https://globusmax.wordpress.com/2020...-solve-part-1/

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              • There’s also more than one path to the 9MH solve. Disqualifying, IMO.

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                • Originally posted by CRM114 View Post
                  But in the NMH solution, just throw "yellowstone Caldera", "Madison Junction," "Firehole" and "Continental Divide" in a hat and randomly pick one. There's your wwwh. It doesn't matter which one it is, unless you're trying to make every Forrest quote work. You still end up at NMH. You could have the wrong one according to Forrest. NMH assumes Forrest messed up really badly.
                  No. This solve starts at the end of the Firehole River/Madison Junction. It would not work with the Caldera or CD. The correct starting point is essential to following the path to the blaze. You might want to re-read the solution on page 1.
                  Rudy Green[e]
                  "The Closer" - "The Log Finder"
                  whereis.thehomeofBrown.com

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                  • Originally posted by thehomeofBrown.com View Post

                    No. This solve starts at the end of the Firehole River/Madison Junction. It would not work with the Caldera or CD. The correct starting point is essential to following the path to the blaze. You might want to re-read the solution on page 1.
                    Reread quickly. It has no dependence on starting location whatsoever other than wwwh should be "up" from Madison Canyon. The CD works fine for me. Zapster likes the Caldera boundary. We all end up in same Madison canyon and duplicate from there.
                    Last edited by CRM114; 05-02-2022, 09:47 AM.
                    You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

                    https://globusmax.wordpress.com/2020...-solve-part-1/

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                    • Originally posted by Vertigo View Post
                      Top is an oil painting. Bottom is a photo from the same perspective, looking up the Madison river from just below 9MH.

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                      And here it is in 1906. The nearest boulder (on the right side in the images above) is out of frame.

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                      • Vertigo That's amazing.

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                        • Originally posted by Knowledge
                          This is proof how far people will go to make a solution work. It is not the location, and that is a fact. Just by taking things Forrest said, it disqualifies it. You CAN'T pick and choose when Forrest was telling the truth or when he was lying. You treat one statement of his as law, the next gets tossed on Time. If the chest was anywhere them fishing logs takes someone, Forrest gave secret hints. He told a searcher to look for artifacts there as well, so he cheated. He gave numbers of people who figured out the first two clues, that does not match either. No one would happen on that chest, really, in Yellowstone in that area. When and if you see the real solution, it will match all the things Forrest said, along with the time it took him to create it. All this hard work and research talked about in this thread is, a fishing hole, and a picture in TTOTC. This not the solution to the Forrest Fenn TTOTC. I know you have convinced yourselves, just like many with their solves. You added the email from Odious soul, and some data from someone you think is smart enough to solve the poem. But so dumb, he is going to post it for the world to see. By using all this information, you are saying Forrest lied about the ending, Jack lied about the ending, but your research and picture book solution is correct. I love to tell you, Forrest Fenn, was close to a genus if not one. This solution is not even close to the imagination and IQ level of Forrest Fenn. By the way, Forrest never said the man in the pickup truck could solve his poem. He said that was the target for his book.
                          He offered Hope.....

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                          • Originally posted by Knowledge

                            I don't understand when I see a solution like this. Forrest said, don't go where an 80-year-old man could not go. He also said, who ever solved it, would have to earn it. It is clear the earning is in the solution, not running around all other the place. So the solution is not going to be some easy solve. How could someone earn it, if it is easy to get to, and simple to solve ?
                            Forrest himself said it was easy to get to and simple to solve if you start in the right place, so you tell me about "earning" it. Perhaps it had more to do with an honest day's wages and daily bread.....

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                            • "The clues did not exist when I was a kid but most of the places the clues refer to did." -f

                              So was it Madison Junction, Madison River, the boulder area, or the log area? Which one of these didn't exist when Fenn was a kid?

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                              • Originally posted by Not4but242Walk View Post
                                "The clues did not exist when I was a kid but most of the places the clues refer to did." -f
                                So was it Madison Junction, Madison River, the boulder area, or the log area? Which one of these didn't exist when Fenn was a kid?
                                "most" can mean "greatest in amount, quantity, or degree." AFAIK "most" in this context can mean "all."

                                But, assuming the blaze is a mark on a tree that Forrest himself made when hiding the treasure (or a tree that has been struck by lightning), Forrest wouldn't be wrong by saying "most of the places the clues refer to did."

                                If you want to buy into the theory that the old (now dry) crystalline pond plays into the solve even though it no longer exists, Forrest wouldn't be wrong by saying "most of the places the clues refer to did."

                                P.S. I'm popping on here to check out all the new developments. I'm finding it amusing how similar the arguments about the treasure have been for roughly the past two years. Without anything definitive from Jack or the Fenn estate, I expect everyone to continue arguing in circles with one another.

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