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  • #16
    As for my take on the video... Everyone likes to think they are a special snowflake. Whoever put up the vid has a flair for the dramatic and a desire to be noticed. Do they contribute anything truly noteworthy? Not that I can see.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Rose Livingstone View Post

      Thanks for clarifying. It was the ‘again’ at the end that stumbled me.
      I did not see that "again" word slip in there. Must have hit a couple keys and auto correct put it there. Peace !

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jackrabbit View Post
        Nah, it's about the find, not the chase, for me anyways. Finding the chest would give the resources needed for other chases, and I have quite a list of plausible treasures that I'd like to go looking for.
        There are billion dollar treasures still out there. And I worked on a 14 billion one. Not an average treasure hunt but huge potential for a certain group.
        https://www.iacr.org/misc/china/
        But at this point either Supreme Court intervention. Which they denied to hear. Or there is another avenue that has not been explored as I see it.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by TreasureCodex View Post

          There are billion dollar treasures still out there. And I worked on a 14 billion one. Not an average treasure hunt but huge potential for a certain group.
          https://www.iacr.org/misc/china/
          But at this point either Supreme Court intervention. Which they denied to hear. Or there is another avenue that has not been explored as I see it.
          Awesome! Thanks for sharing! I'll have to tinker with this later but I'm busy with a little Beale Cipher side project. Any ideas about why historically such a huge sum would be deposited? Maybe in relation to Japanese aggression in the area?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Jackrabbit View Post

            Awesome! Thanks for sharing! I'll have to tinker with this later but I'm busy with a little Beale Cipher side project. Any ideas about why historically such a huge sum would be deposited? Maybe in relation to Japanese aggression in the area?
            Yes 03/03/1933 was the date of agreement. Hoards of gold shipped to United States before invasion of China by Japan. $300,000,000.00 value at $20.67 per ounce.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102
            This executive order guarantees the safety of the deposit as only certain entities could store gold in Federal Reserve vaults and the Federal Reserve was also prohibited of being able to claim ownership of gold in their vaults. I don't know how Mr. Tao got the gold bars into his possession other than from relative. The translation on bars is of gold being stored in a special vault.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Jackrabbit View Post

              Awesome! Thanks for sharing! I'll have to tinker with this later but I'm busy with a little Beale Cipher side project. Any ideas about why historically such a huge sum would be deposited? Maybe in relation to Japanese aggression in the area?
              Beale cipher is a hoax. Skilled crypto people have proved it

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              • #22
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                It's definitely Kyle Sandau. He is the "searcher" who claims it's buried in San Lazaro SOUTH of Santa Fe and his premise is based on Ric Hajovski's book "The Lost Kivas of San Lazaro". He spent months scooping up every available copy to deny them to other searchers. He used to show multiple copies in his videos and brag about how he had ALL of them. They would be loaned/checked out from Libraries and never returned. I know because I attempted to buy a copy a couple of times and could never find one.

                His old videos were all about conspiracy and Dal being a big part of it. About Forrest lying about where the treasure is. He concluded the book was no longer available because it had additional information not included in Forrest's book "The Secrets of San Lazaro Pueblo" and included the newly discovered Kiva where Kyle believes it is buried.

                Well, Ric Hajovsky decided to sell his book again via Amazon "print on demand" a week ago which obviously didn't make Kyle happy. I was not at all surprised to see him release that video.

                Ric Hajovsky announced it on a couple of forums and has responded to a few searcher questions about timing and reasoning.
                Last edited by Diggio; 06-17-2019, 05:31 PM.
                "Misquotations are the only quotations that are never misquoted." - Hesketh Pearson

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                • #23
                  Sounds like not every searcher is a cooperative team player.
                  I am a firm believer that Forrest did not lie about where the treasure is located.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Zapster View Post

                    Beale cipher is a hoax. Skilled crypto people have proved it
                    I wouldn't be surprised if you're correct. I'd like to find the particular non-standard version of the Declaration of Independence used as the key to #2 though.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Zapster View Post

                      Beale cipher is a hoax. Skilled crypto people have proved it
                      Socalled skilled crypto people are limited in their abilities. I have had many ex-military intelligence cryptographers look at my work. Actually I find them lacking. I have a copy of their report they were ashamed to even sign.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by TreasureCodex View Post

                        Socalled skilled crypto people are limited in their abilities. I have had many ex-military intelligence cryptographers look at my work. Actually I find them lacking. I have a copy of their report they were ashamed to even sign.
                        *I* am a skilled crypto guy, and I can prove it's a hoax, not that this is the proper forum for going off on that tangent.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Zapster View Post

                          *I* am a skilled crypto guy, and I can prove it's a hoax, not that this is the proper forum for going off on that tangent.
                          What can a skilled crypto guy prove is a hoax ?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by TreasureCodex View Post

                            What can a skilled crypto guy prove is a hoax ?
                            Beale Cipher #1.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Zapster View Post

                              Beale Cipher #1.
                              I have my doubts about that. I believe I may be able to solve #3. I did a solve of KRYPTOS 4 which I believe to be accurate. But I won't pay Sanborn $50 to confirm. Heck, if he is making enough money selling solve reviews he may never acknowledge a solve. But please, why do you think you can prove hoax. In a general sense.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by TreasureCodex View Post

                                I have my doubts about that. I believe I may be able to solve #3. I did a solve of KRYPTOS 4 which I believe to be accurate. But I won't pay Sanborn $50 to confirm. Heck, if he is making enough money selling solve reviews he may never acknowledge a solve. But please, why do you think you can prove hoax. In a general sense.
                                No offense, but I seriously doubt you have solved the final 97 letters of Kryptos (K4). If you had, it would be self-apparent, and you wouldn't need to spend the $50. You could copyright it, announce it on one of the many public forums (Elonka's, for instance), and cryptanalysts could quickly confirm or disprove your solution. Before opening yourself and your solution to that level of scrutiny, I'd recommend reading these:

                                https://arstechnica.com/science/2019...uscript/?amp=1
                                http://www.zodiackillerciphers.com/?p=602

                                Beale, Voynich, Zodiac-340, Kryptos, Dorabella, D'Agapeyeff and Fenn's treasure puzzle share a similar allure, and the accompanying propensity for would-be solvers to delude themselves.

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