Life is But a Dream

[trueyeti]

Carl Jung made a carving on a stone at his Tower at Bollingen at Lake Zurich:
A Jung drawing attached.

Time is a child — playing like a child — playing a board game — the kingdom of the child. This is Telesphoros, who roams through the dark regions of this cosmos and glows like a star out of the depths. He points the way to the gates of the sun and to the land of dreams.

The X-Marks the spot:
Totality at a place known as “Little Egypt,” Illinois. The uu or UU applies. The W (Wynn) applies, Theta applies, the double omega applies. Alice in Wonderland applies. X-marks the spot image attached.

The Roman armillary sphere has an arrow through the globe. The Egyptians have Theta. Wikipedia says: “According to Porphyry of Tyros, the Egyptians used an X within a circle as a symbol of the soul; having a value of nine, it was used as a symbol for Ennead. 9-Clues in the poem.

Telesphoros is the son of Asclepius. In the figure Jung carved into his stone at his tower, those words of the figure make Telesphoros immortal. Like a child playing throughout time. IMO, Telesphoros is like the Genie of the bottle. The spirit that is playing within the vessel, our bodies throughout time. No need to take offense in this, or to label it all as “witchcraft,” or somehow against the western monolith of organized religion/Christianity. Metaphor allows symbols to have transformational equivalent values, irrespective. This is true in math, religion, and science. The transmutation of species or meanings is no different.

Yeah, the X-Marks the spot is…..happening. The 9-Clues, the W/M/double omega/rainbow/arrow/scissor tail/etc., al. of Forrest Fenn apply to the Genie in the bottle and the play that is upon the stage.

Common motifs as recognized in antiquity, travel through time like Telesphoros and express themselves to those who are paying attention. Surely as the moon and Sun play with the ever-spinning globe, the end is ever drawing nigh. Creating, like the Phoenix from the ashes….again and again.

If you turn the frog on page 133 downwards as per “look quickly down” the symbol on its eye becomes the Runic symbol for the Sun. (It looks like the number 3). Slide that 3 down in place of the 1 on page 133, and you get 333. Funny thing is that if you turn 333 back on its side, you get WWW (as in Where Warm Waters). Transformational function much?

The asterisk is 3 W’s because it is 6 V’s.

When an arrow penetrates a target, it leaves the mark of X. If the target is Theta (a circle with a line through it), then the shape that is left is the asterisk. That’s the Walmart symbol.

Funny thing is that I am going to Walmart today and today’s date is 1/9/2023. The total solar eclipse is 4/8/2024. That’s 455 days from now. 455 -365(year) = 90 days. Hahaha that’s like 9, if you can appreciate the concept of one out of 99, then the equation makes the nine fits just fine.

Now look at the X-marks the spot for totalities:
Eclipses at Little Egypt: 7 years 7 x 365 = 2,555
From totality-to-totality 2,422 days
Subtract 2555 – 2422 = 133
133 = page number where the Symbol on the eye of the frog figures into X-Marks the Spot. It ties in TTOTC with the symbols/metaphors/meanings of Telesphoros with the event of “Little Egypt.”

Time is a child — playing like a child — playing a board game — the kingdom of the child. This is Telesphoros, who roams through the dark regions of this cosmos and glows like a star out of the depths. He points the way to the gates of the sun and to the land of dreams.

Merrily, Merrily, Merrily, life is but a dream....

[Sirius B]

You forgot one. There are 6 years, 6 months, 6 weeks, and 6 days between 8/21/2017 and 4/8/2024. 2422 days.

No really. Go here and play around with it if you like: https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html I'm still trying to figure out what it means.

[trueyeti]

You forgot one. There are 6 years, 6 months, 6 weeks, and 6 days between 8/21/2017 and 4/8/2024. 2422 days. No really. You can't just fake dates and things like solar eclipses like that. I didn't make it up, I just pointed it out. It's weird AF tho. Go here and play around with it if you like: https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html I'm still trying to figure out what it means.

Hey B,
In process of looking to confirm your assessment.

Please note in your considerations that, "The asterisk is 3 W’s because it is 6 V’s." The shape of the asterisk is hexagonal. Numbers and shapes are relational in the world of geometry. The 666 thing figures in hexagons. IMO, the negative connotation of 666, can be reflected by Revelations 12, but in that verse the "child" is swept up to heaven (positive event). So, the number 666, indicates a normal geometric relationship that has lineage with the astrological events of the "X-marks the spot" eclipse event. (Ancient knowledge applies).

Interpretations of the "heraldic" event has meaning with regards to two things: One - positive, and Two - negative. IMO, those people without a certain knowledge as to the facts of celestial events and the occurrence of them will possibly be more likely to ascribe negative valuations to such occurrences, rather than recognizing them for what the are; a demonstration of the applicability of sacred geometry played out in real time....in an actual event. IMO....the event is a demonstration of the principal of sacred geometry attesting to intelligence and agency of such things.

IMO, art, science, and philosophy has a word that describes an event like this: Musica Universalis, "The harmony of the spheres." Something beautiful, ethereal, and transcendent.....amidst the dreary and mundane political discourse in the "Kim-Kardashian" society lifestyle that the world seems to be caught up in at the moment. Who will be shocked by the asterisk event? Who will be sorely amazed at the beauty? Who will be scared and frightened? Who will Marvel and gaze (contemplate) the Musica Universalis?

Yeah, the Revelations bit about the woman and dragon can apply too, IMO. Also, consider that knowledge of antiquity flowed from the old world, generally from Egypt to Europe.

Knowledge of antiquity adapted to new regions and enfolded and added to beliefs/facts. The dragonfly made sure of this IMO, because the dragonfly is like a commonality....it's a metaphor for the Musica Universalis across the planet.

I am certain that all the old-world knowledge has transference and equanimity with new-world knowledge (pyramids for example). The America's and the Old-World motifs share the "secret knowledge." It's nothing to be afraid of, rather, it is all of a beauty that is to behold..... and to rejoice over. Heck, that is the meaning of the W(Wynn), the double omega, the M, the rainbow, etc. Al..... The treasure is ours to behold; the object of our universal affections, and the miracle of being alive within a fantastical picture. Hexagons? Are they the Pixels of the dimension where we reside? Sure why not? Zeus and the honey comb and bee's apply, and why not? It all leads into the 9-Muses. There is connection with the honey comb and ancient myth. And what of Forrest Fenn and his beloved Bessie and the milk in the eye's of cats? Do these things speak to the motif, "The Land of Milk and Honey?" If geometry is translational, then so is myth. Most things connect to most things.....if not all things. Someone wrote, "All things are metaphors."

I add a link that is from a auto-biography by Max Evans (a friend of Forrest's), where you can read about an other-worldly experience that he had with a friend. The message of the encounter: "She said to tell you hexagonals hold the universe together." (page 225).

https://books.google.com/books?id=gr...0beach&f=false

Oh, what fun this all is! Cheers.

[Suzy]

Hey B,
In process of looking to confirm your assessment.

Please note in your considerations that, "The asterisk is 3 W’s because it is 6 V’s." The shape of the asterisk is hexagonal. Numbers and shapes are relational in the world of geometry. The 666 thing figures in hexagons. IMO, the negative connotation of 666, can be reflected by Revelations 12, but in that verse the "child" is swept up to heaven (positive event). So, the number 666, indicates a normal geometric relationship that has lineage with the astrological events of the "X-marks the spot" eclipse event. (Ancient knowledge applies).

Interpretations of the "heraldic" event has meaning with regards to two things: One - positive, and Two - negative. IMO, those people without a certain knowledge as to the facts of celestial events and the occurrence of them will possibly be more likely to ascribe negative valuations to such occurrences, rather than recognizing them for what the are; a demonstration of the applicability of sacred geometry played out in real time....in an actual event. IMO....the event is a demonstration of the principal of sacred geometry attesting to intelligence and agency of such things.

IMO, art, science, and philosophy has a word that describes an event like this: Musica Universalis, "The harmony of the spheres." Something beautiful, ethereal, and transcendent.....amidst the dreary and mundane political discourse in the "Kim-Kardashian" society lifestyle that the world seems to be caught up in at the moment. Who will be shocked by the asterisk event? Who will be sorely amazed at the beauty? Who will be scared and frightened? Who will Marvel and gaze (contemplate) the Musica Universalis?

Yeah, the Revelations bit about the woman and dragon can apply too, IMO. Also, consider that knowledge of antiquity flowed from the old world, generally from Egypt to Europe.

Knowledge of antiquity adapted to new regions and enfolded and added to beliefs/facts. The dragonfly made sure of this IMO, because the dragonfly is like a commonality....it's a metaphor for the Musica Universalis across the planet.

I am certain that all the old-world knowledge has transference and equanimity with new-world knowledge (pyramids for example). The America's and the Old-World motifs share the "secret knowledge." It's nothing to be afraid of, rather, it is all of a beauty that is to behold..... and to rejoice over. Heck, that is the meaning of the W(Wynn), the double omega, the M, the rainbow, etc. Al..... The treasure is ours to behold; the object of our universal affections, and the miracle of being alive within a fantastical picture. Hexagons? Are they the Pixels of the dimension where we reside? Sure why not? Zeus and the honey comb and bee's apply, and why not? It all leads into the 9-Muses. There is connection with the honey comb and ancient myth. And what of Forrest Fenn and his beloved Bessie and the milk in the eye's of cats? Do these things speak to the motif, "The Land of Milk and Honey?" If geometry is translational, then so is myth. Most things connect to most things.....if not all things. Someone wrote, "All things are metaphors."

I add a link that is from a auto-biography by Max Evans (a friend of Forrest's), where you can read about an other-worldly experience that he had with a friend. The message of the encounter: "She said to tell you hexagonals hold the universe together." (page 225).

https://books.google.com/books?id=gr...0beach&f=false

Oh, what fun this all is! Cheers.

Mr. Yet, did I hear you wrong? Fun? Is that anything like a roller coaster ride that continues on for an eternity and never stops? Okay, I'll allow you a little latitude this time, but here's my point. Your three 3’s seem to also work with page 96 and 69 of TTOTC. Page 96 is where Forrest speaks of his experience with the T-33 jet trainer, revealing two of your sideways W’s. This also stays within TTOTC, thus staying closer to "what HE told us" and making a bit closer connection to HIS poem. Then, on page 69, we have a chapter that starts off with a large capital “W” and once again the sideways 3, or "W". In fact, tying these in with Forrest’s cancer, we can now make that "closer" connection and relate to a personal aspect of where Forrest may have hidden the chest. These hints seem to also take precedence over "the greatly debated" page 99. Why? Because, as stated, they hold a much more personal connection than bombs being dropped by a fighter plane. Yes, I still believe that in some odd way page 99 may lead us close, however, that's where the pages 69 and 96 seem to take over, possibly leading us further.

Then again, what do I know? With hints everywhere, and absent of Forrest having disclosed the correct answer, we may never be able to unravel a proper solve or determine the ending location. I don’t know about you, but I sometimes feel like I’m spiraling down a counterclockwise vortex of space and time, like those blackholes I described several weeks back. Yes! Yet again throne into the twilight zone of confusion! Only this time, I feel more like Mr. Wizard’s cartoon version of the spiral… Twizzle, Twazzle, Twozzle, Twome, I'm not sure if this one will ever make it home!

[trueyeti]

Hey Suzy,
All of these things you mention are not wrong. Difficulty arises with a riddle when solvers try to nail down all of the rabbit holes for their respective localities. At least for me and my solve, I have demonstrated that there are "many worlds" within that locality that have direct connection with TTOTC. IMO, they tell a story that includes all things Forrest, but includes other things too.

IMO, there are sub-plots and twists and turns. Linkages are made by readers with pages 69, 96, 99, 133, 146, etc., Al..... But those things all must correspond with locality....100%. And they must answer Richard Wetherill, Byron Harvey, etc., Al.

I suggest that there are other stories about locality that Forrest plugs into with his solve, that are not apparent, or known, within the world of TTOTC. Think about it; locality and a solve is not accepted by the "majority." I seem to recall that Forrest alluded to "the story of his solve," and IMO, that is the story of the winning solve.....which no one can agree on. So how can anyone see a story behind the story? Will that new owner of the "autobiography" offer any insight to that "winning solve?" If so, then will that "something" be enough to tear searchers away from their own solves? Only one, can be right after all, otherwise are they all wrong? The winning solve must disclose and answer the story of the solve (the story behind the story)....Forrest's solve.....the winning solve.....the one and only solve. Locality must play a key and central role in that solve, otherwise it will fall short, despite the best efforts of those who think otherwise.

Regarding the host of "rabbit holes," the term "embroidery" comes to mind. Symbols (words) are used in communication. A symbol most always has two meanings (two sides to a coin). The metaphor can be a combination of one, or two, or more symbols that each can have dual meanings. The meaning of the metaphor and it's symbols must be deciphered to answer the questions presented by the riddle, so that the riddle itself, can be solved. It can seem intimidating to consider the prospects of being able to derive an answer given the variables. And then there are other riddles that present themselves along the way, to the answer....consistently. The search for answers, create questions and within them are more symbols/metaphors/meanings. The search is fractal in nature and like a labyrinth, IMO. "Black Hole" you say? Yeah, that is a good metaphor that describes the problem we are faced with. Are we talking about the armchair solve, or a BOTG solve combined with locality? Invariably, other riddles and questions present themselves, and hence the fractal nature....worlds, within worlds. The winning solve is Forrest's solve and it's embroidery is a tapestry that answers the riddles and tells the story.....and the story behind that story too.

IMO, we are given TTOTC and in it is a story and a poem. However, when out and BOTG, the locality tells another story and presents it's own riddles. IMO, there is a story within the story within the story. Worlds within worlds. The linkages that exist with Forrest's story and what I have found BOTG fit to tell a story that fits into another story and another world, besides the one we already know. There are links with Forrest's "X-marks the spot" and with the X-marks the spot of the eclipse of 2024, for instance. And did you know that the word "treasures" sounds the way the word "tressures" sounds? Tressure refers to Orle (heraldry), and the other means Forrest's chest. But did Forrest know that? If he did, then it opens insight into another world, where there is another story....different, and concurrent with the one that we know, at the same time. See what I mean? A word in the hands of a word-sorcerer can flip and turn you around. Just like the lettering on the Mandrake Fenn and Eric signature. Reversed.

The rabbit hole I'm down is and honest look at how a riddle is answered. Remember, the Genie in the bottle....is akin to Gypsy Magic.....again, an entry point into another world. A door....that is in the maze of Forrest Fenn, the architect. Lot's of trapdoors and dead-ends in that maze. Cheers.

[trueyeti]

You forgot one. There are 6 years, 6 months, 6 weeks, and 6 days between 8/21/2017 and 4/8/2024. 2422 days.

No really. Go here and play around with it if you like: https://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html I'm still trying to figure out what it means.

Hey B,
Very good! It is 2 days short of six- days for 2422. No worries though because that is just a little riddle. See, if you look at the circle of the globe as a circle, then at one point on the circle, it is the day before, (one day). If you look at the circle of the globe as a circle at another time, then at another point, it can be the day after. One circle....can contain 2 days. So for 8/21/2017, the end of 8/20/2017, is included, and for 4/8/2024, the beginning of 4/9/2024 is included. Using this riddle-solution to account for the missing 2 days.....makes it 6-days, and not 4.

The circle of the globe can represent one full 24 hour cycle for a single date, or the circle can represent two days where:
1 day = 24 hours of 1 day - one circle
1 circle = 2 days: beginning of one day until noon, ending of another day, noon till midnight.

In the same way, a circle (turning of the circle of the globe), can contain two millenniums within it:
One millennium in half the circle, and the other millennium in the other half of the circle. Example: the 20th century comprises the years AD 1901-2000. Therefore, the 21st century began on 1 January 2001 and will continue through 31 December 2100. Similarly, the 1st millennium comprised the years AD 1-1000. The 2nd millennium comprised the years AD 1001-2000. December 31st and January 1st exist on a circle simultaneously.

On the circle of the globe, two millenniums can simultaneously exist too. Cheers.

[Sirius B]

I may have misspoken when I said "Between the Dates". Let's just look at the the time passed between the actual moments of the eclipses. I'm not good at math, but I am pretty good with serial addition and XOR operations. Also don't forget when working back from 4/8/24, 2422 days, there are two additional leap days in there, that wont align precisely if you count by weeks or months. Luckily, the method I will demonstrate counts the actual days in either direction. Personally, I don't ascribe any particular significance to the anomaly. I didn't miscalculate though, and it is even more deeply aligned than I mentioned. I expect skepticism, and extraordinary claims require repeatable proofs. So I went and determined the exact time of day when both eclipses converge(d) on Cedar Lake, a little south of Carbondale, IL, where my calculations indicate the centroid of the two eclipses' intersection. In 2017, this occurred ~12pm. In 2024, it will be ~2:00pm. To avoid counting the extra day, in this case I netted the difference as "2 hours"- aka: "not a full day". This ensures we don't count another day by assuming the day count starts and ends at midnight. We have set the clock to the 2017 eclipse, and we are precessing the 2024 time of day, to account for it.



Why does it give you two results? Because one of our counting registers is overflowing and it is messing up the serial addition: the "6 weeks". That six weeks of "lookback" goes over a leap day, and you'll miss it if you count looking back by weeks instead of days. Adding days first is the "accurate" count, however. You can see by including the time differential as a net number, and counting from 2017's eclipse as if it were midnight, I avoided counting another extra day for the start and end points, as you were saying above. This anomaly is why the date calculator gives you two results. We broke the rules by saying "6 weeks", because that's really 1 month and 2 weeks. But if you are counting on the holy abacus (counting by actual days), It may be just a funny way of saying it, but "6 years, 6 months, 6 weeks, 6 days and 2 hours", is an accurate statement of the location-synchronized time interval between these two eclipses, imho.

[Sirius B]

Me? I see things differently. Rev 13 aside, I'm a skeptic on that doom and gloom stuff, but not an atheist. This is just a fascinating numerical glitch. You think that's unsetlling?

Here's another: Don't forget the Great Conjunction of 21 Dec 2020. If you go back to the calendar thing, you will see this date falls precisely between the two eclipse dates when using this counting method. It's spooky.

3yrs, 3mths, 3wks, and 9days from the 2017 eclipse to the 2020 GC. That's 1211 days. Isn't that like that thing Kepler was yammering about? The Trigon? Yes.

Now get this, the December 21 2020 GC is also 3yrs, 3mths, 3wks, and 9 days away from the 4/8/2024 eclipse. Now that's symmetry, eh?


Take a little time to work it out for yourself. Personally, I'm floored. There is a perfect symmetry of the great American eclipses around the (enormously significant) 2020 Great Conjunction if we use this peculiar counting method that I think I may have stumbled upon.

What does it mean?
No idea. I'm just watching the wheels go round and round. The symmetry is really fascinating though. Surely there is a small group who has been aware of this date for a long time and are aware of its significance if any. Whoever "they" are, they have not shared anything with me. I also don't follow astrology, other than to note the during the 2024 eclipse (i.e.: the Sun and Moon), and virtually every other planetary body in the Sol System will be crammed to within a narrow area around 19^o Aries (where the Eclipse takes place). Forgetting about astrology and mood swings, I'd worry about earthquakes. Go look at astrological chart for 4/8/2024. I'm not exaggerating. All lined up past Pluto within a 30^o slice of pi in the sky.

This is completely original work, that was inspired by the anomaly of the "twin" eclipses and was driven by our conversation here on THOR. I have nothing to sell and I'm no Nostradamus. I don't rule out inspiration from the other side though. Look at my avatar.

[trueyeti]

Me? I see things differently. Rev 13 aside, I'm a skeptic on that doom and gloom stuff, but not an atheist. This is just a fascinating numerical glitch. You think that's unsetlling?

Here's another: Don't forget the Great Conjunction of 21 Dec 2020. If you go back to the calendar thing, you will see this date falls precisely between the two eclipse dates when using this counting method. It's spooky.

3yrs, 3mths, 3wks, and 9days from the 2017 eclipse to the 2020 GC. That's 1211 days. Isn't that like that thing Kepler was yammering about? The Trigon? Yes.

Now get this, the December 21 2020 GC is also 3yrs, 3mths, 3wks, and 9 days away from the 4/8/2024 eclipse. Now that's symmetry, eh?


Take a little time to work it out for yourself. Personally, I'm floored. There is a perfect symmetry of the great American eclipses around the (enormously significant) 2020 Great Conjunction if we use this peculiar counting method that I think I may have stumbled upon.

What does it mean?
No idea. I'm just watching the wheels go round and round. The symmetry is really fascinating though. Surely there is a small group who has been aware of this date for a long time and are aware of its significance if any. Whoever "they" are, they have not shared anything with me. This is completely original work, that was inspired by the anomaly of the "twin" eclipses and was driven by our conversation here on THOR. I have nothing to sell and I'm no Nostradamus. I don't rule out inspiration from the other side though. Look at my avatar.

Hey B,
"You" are "they." hehehe. As Spock would say, "Fascinating." Forrest ties in as well. It is not difficult to see how he does. IMO....it is like the Telesphorus of Jung's carving. That quote was taken from Heraclitus. IMO, it speaks to the Genie of the bottle, Gypsy Magic, etc., Al. That motif appears in antiquity in the form of the "hand bag" that is seen in ancient myth. IMO, the motif shares the "lantern" with it.....it speaks to the "gates of the Sun." At Bisti, the Navajo myth, "The House of the Father Sun" applies and ties in. IMO...that is part of the story of "the winning solve," a part of the story Forrest is telling that nobody knows, besides the one we are all aware of.

IMO, the stars line up throughout time with symmetry and the "sacred geometry." Stanley Kubrick's "2001 Space Odyssey" echoes the theme with the monolith and the planets lining up. These things are in antiquity and express themselves throughout time in reality. "Fascinating."

Remember in Utah....they found a monolith. It made the world-news. Next thing we knew, monoliths were popping up all over the world. It was wonderful. People still marvel at the event, with many not knowing what to make of it all. And what is it but a symbol? And what is it a symbol of? And what does Forrest Fenn have to do with it all? Well, the motif is universal. Forrest's symbols can easily fit into that story....that motif.....the motif expressed like Heraclitus talking about time and the "play." Hahah.....if you want to play, then consider this: "2001 Space Odyssey" is 23 years from 2024 and the second eclipse..... The 23 = the W. That symbol is on the eye of the frog, page 133.

Maybe we should ask if there are any Freemasons in here or something. hahahaha Good work, by the way. Cheers.

[trueyeti]

Me? I see things differently. Rev 13 aside, I'm a skeptic on that doom and gloom stuff, but not an atheist. This is just a fascinating numerical glitch. You think that's unsetlling?

Here's another: Don't forget the Great Conjunction of 21 Dec 2020. If you go back to the calendar thing, you will see this date falls precisely between the two eclipse dates when using this counting method. It's spooky.

3yrs, 3mths, 3wks, and 9days from the 2017 eclipse to the 2020 GC. That's 1211 days. Isn't that like that thing Kepler was yammering about? The Trigon? Yes.

Now get this, the December 21 2020 GC is also 3yrs, 3mths, 3wks, and 9 days away from the 4/8/2024 eclipse. Now that's symmetry, eh?


Take a little time to work it out for yourself. Personally, I'm floored. There is a perfect symmetry of the great American eclipses around the (enormously significant) 2020 Great Conjunction if we use this peculiar counting method that I think I may have stumbled upon.

What does it mean?
No idea. I'm just watching the wheels go round and round. The symmetry is really fascinating though. Surely there is a small group who has been aware of this date for a long time and are aware of its significance if any. Whoever "they" are, they have not shared anything with me. This is completely original work, that was inspired by the anomaly of the "twin" eclipses and was driven by our conversation here on THOR. I have nothing to sell and I'm no Nostradamus. I don't rule out inspiration from the other side though. Look at my avatar.

Hey B,
Outstanding observations, all. IMO, the math can transfer into the language. The language can transfer the symbols, into meaning. In other words, our internal lives (mind/body/spirit) are reflections of the symmetry that we see in the Musica Universalis. In effect, you could on a dark night, go to a place where there are no city lights, and stare up into the heavens and say to them, "I Love You." If you understand the symbolism of the mirror, then you might just hear the echo fed back you from the heaven's saying, "I Love You back." And merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream. Cheers.

[trueyeti]

Me? I see things differently. Rev 13 aside, I'm a skeptic on that doom and gloom stuff, but not an atheist. This is just a fascinating numerical glitch. You think that's unsetlling?

Here's another: Don't forget the Great Conjunction of 21 Dec 2020. If you go back to the calendar thing, you will see this date falls precisely between the two eclipse dates when using this counting method. It's spooky.

3yrs, 3mths, 3wks, and 9days from the 2017 eclipse to the 2020 GC. That's 1211 days. Isn't that like that thing Kepler was yammering about? The Trigon? Yes.

Now get this, the December 21 2020 GC is also 3yrs, 3mths, 3wks, and 9 days away from the 4/8/2024 eclipse. Now that's symmetry, eh?

Take a little time to work it out for yourself. Personally, I'm floored. There is a perfect symmetry of the great American eclipses around the (enormously significant) 2020 Great Conjunction if we use this peculiar counting method that I think I may have stumbled upon.

What does it mean?
No idea. I'm just watching the wheels go round and round. The symmetry is really fascinating though. Surely there is a small group who has been aware of this date for a long time and are aware of its significance if any. Whoever "they" are, they have not shared anything with me. I also don't follow astrology, other than to note the during the 2024 eclipse (i.e.: the Sun and Moon), and virtually every other planetary body in the Sol System will be crammed to within a few degrees of 19^o Aries (where the Eclipse takes place). Forgetting about astrology and mood swings, I'd worry about earthquakes.

This is completely original work, that was inspired by the anomaly of the "twin" eclipses and was driven by our conversation here on THOR. I have nothing to sell and I'm no Nostradamus. I don't rule out inspiration from the other side though. Look at my avatar.

Hey B,
It all means that a giant baby embryo is going to appear floating above the Earth's atmosphere like in the movie! Now that's entertainment mate!

"Ancient Aliens?" Who are those guys anyways? hahaha

[Sirius B]

Hey B,
It all means that a giant baby embryo is going to appear floating above the Earth's atmosphere like in the movie! Now that's entertainment mate!

"Ancient Aliens?" Who are those guys anyways? hahaha

Starchild is the word you're looking for. We're the accidental eyes of the world for this event. Led by The Star, just like the Magi. All crowded into Aries' starry manger. In an uncanny case of synchronicity, I was listening to Mother and Child Reunion, by Paul Simon at the exact moment I first went to the date calculator. It stuck in my head all evening, and was especially unnerving having just read Rev 12, and looking at the high priestess card from our previous discussion and realizing that both possibly refer to the same event we will witness. According to the Saros cycle info I found from the Never A Straight Answer boys, Eclipses repeat in the same sky 54.33 years apart. Eclipses crossing each other in the same spot seven years apart around a great conjunction (exactly)? Well Kepler himself said it. You'd have to go back to April 29, 6BC.

It is interesting, as you say, to note the symmetry between 2001: a Space Odyssey, and 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Both as you know, by Kubrick and Clark, and informed by the same original vision that can be traced back to Robert Ardrey. Clark and Kubrick famously consulted African Genesis, Ardrey's book, in the Dawn of Man sequence of 2001. Clark (and Ardrey) traveled extensively through Africa and both visited with the Dogon tribe. In my opinion, the Dogon's advanced knowledge of Sirius, and their oral heritage of contact with visitors from Sirius, provided the seed of the idea to Clark that extraterrestrials would carefully monitor human progress and provide advanced information to selective groups towards an eventual embassy and diplomatic relations between the cultures. We were talking about Klaatu, and so there's a scenario to ponder as well. The more we talk about it, the easier to think Fenn would have liked it. Marvel Gaze and all that.

[trueyeti]

Starchild is the word you're looking for. We're the accidental eyes of the world for this event. Led by The Star, just like the Magi. All crowded into Aries' starry manger. In an uncanny case of synchronicity, I was listening to Mother and Child Reunion, by Paul Simon at the exact moment I first went to the date calculator. It stuck in my head all evening, and was especially unnerving having just read Rev 12, and looking at the high priestess card from our previous discussion and realizing that both possibly refer to the same event we will witness. According to the Saros cycle info I found from the Never A Straight Answer boys, Eclipses repeat in the same sky 54.33 years apart. Eclipses crossing each other in the same spot seven years apart around a great conjunction (exactly)? Well Kepler himself said it. You'd have to go back to April 29, 6BC.

It is interesting, as you say, to note the symmetry between 2001: a Space Odyssey, and 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Both as you know, by Kubrick and Clark, and informed by the same original vision that can be traced back to Robert Ardrey. Clark and Kubrick famously consulted African Genesis, Ardrey's book, in the Dawn of Man sequence of 2001. Clark (and Ardrey) traveled extensively through Africa and both visited with the Dogon tribe. In my opinion, the Dogon's advanced knowledge of Sirius, and their oral heritage of contact with visitors from Sirius, provided the seed of the idea to Clark that extraterrestrials would carefully monitor human progress and provide advanced information to selective groups towards an eventual embassy and diplomatic relations between the cultures. We were talking about Klaatu, and so there's a scenario to ponder as well. The more we talk about it, the easier to think Fenn would have liked it. Marvel Gaze and all that.

Hey B,
IMO, the Genie of the bottle is like the Telesphorus of Heraclitus. A child playing a board game. I mentioned a while back, "pick a symbol and it will appear." I read that somewhere. IMO, a person that is inclined to paying attention to things is more likely to experience patterns. Not because the person has picked a pattern per say, but in my experience synchronicities are real. The synchronicity you mentioned about the song for instance. Carl Jung said, "Synchronicity is an ever present reality for those who have eyes to see." IMO, it takes practice to pay attention to such things, but the reward is there because they connect us to a form of myth......some may even call "miracles." Hey, they happen all the time IMO, just got to look, and develop your eyes to see them. Einstein said “There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.” IMO, it's in the eyes.....and how you "see."

Anyway, I read an article that the double event is an extremally rare occurrence. There are some articles that are available, more to come I'm sure. I commented about the "Little Egypt/Carbondale" before THOR went read only. I didn't calculate the odds of such an occurrence. IMO....this topic will remain and we can revisit it anytime.

Ancient knowledge is fascinating. Last night I was looking up at the moon and realized that I am thoroughly unfamiliar with its apparent movement across the sky. I think that Forrest's SB 107 with the telephone line all tangled speaks to the movement of the moon. Loops, and the shape of Omega in succession and upside down, and then the W/M concepts apply. I'd like to get my head wrapped around the subject for a bit. I think that there are equivalent values that can be ascribed to the moon's motion across the celestial equator with respect to the symbols of Forrest Fenn. I think that they may have transference into the timing of moon cycles with respect to month, day, year, etc....

I find it intriguing too that Bisti shares a direct connection with Chaco Canyon and what Forrest said with regards to Byron Harvey and breaking Maria Pots. The Anasazi broke pots in the Badlands just the same; they traveled the ceremonial roads from Chaco to "the place of origin," as the Badlands are referred to, and broke pots there. The ocean was once there. Turtle shells and dinosaur fossils live there. And then Chaco's Pueblo Bonito is in the shape of a giant "D" that marks the solstice. To me it fits the "praying for D's" as Chaco Canyon aligns with ceremony and beliefs of ancient peoples. This is in line with "praying." Additionally, Richard Wetherill is buried just a golf-balls drive away from that giant "D." Many celestial correlations are to be found within Chaco Canyon as I'm sure you know already.

Anyway, you have a simpatico with respect to the linkages with the extremely rare event...."the asterisk event," perhaps is a good name for it, or "the X-Marks the Spot"....we'll pick it up again, just wanted to get back to you. Cheers.

[Sirius B]

Remember when Forrest said he threw Time magazine in the wastebasket? You brought up symmetry. 4/8/66 | 4/8/24. That's -696- months exact.

I like "asterix event". It's subtly revealing. Aster = Star = Stella. IX = Nine = Nova. It subtly suggests the Starchild Event is or will be like a Stellar Nova. The variant spelling hides the IX monogram after "Aster", which is a nice flower for the occasion. Asters were believed to be sacred to the Greek gods and were used in wreaths placed on altars, and in many cultures were the traditional grave flower for a soldier or someone who died too young or unjustly..

[trueyeti]

I think I see what you mean.

Hey B,
Universal archetypal motifs.....

Double the 8-lines in that image and you have 16 in a circle....That's the Zia of Zuni....the New Mexico state flag. Divide that 16 by the 4 cardinal directions and you get 4......as in Row 4 Hillcrest Cemetery. Consider that your image of the Vatican is related to the Roman armillary....and now consider that the angle of Earth's spin axis is 23.5....that is Column 23 (Hillcrest Cemetery). Someone mentioned that there are two images of the stumps in TTOTC.....one with 23 stumps, and one with 24 stumps. Okay....the average is....23.5.

Hidden meaning? Relationship with archetypes universal....all the way to Forrest Fenn and his TTOTC. 100 percent relatable.

Here's another one for you to consider: The Musica Universalis is the harmony of the spheres, and you have it in the palm of your hand. How?
The proper motion of both the Sun and the Moon make V's and W's across the Earth's celestial equator. Depending if you are on the line of the tropic of Cancer, or the tropic of Capricorn, your observations of the motion would show a V, or an upside down V.......the moon crosses the ecliptic plane 2 times a month, and the Sun crosses the Earth's ecliptic plane once a year, but it's path makes a double omega. In a nut shell....all these V's make W's......and if you look in the palm of your hand....you can see the V's and W.....and the "X-marks the spot" too. The universe.....in the palm of your hand.

Someone in here said that Great Britain is the land of Dragons. But I point out that Quetzalcoatl is the same thing. If someone said that Egypt is the land of the pyramids...then I'd have to point out that they are in China too. I have heard that there are more pyramids in the America's than there are in Egypt.

Then all those Dragons: Pink Adobe, George Martin's fire breathing Dragon Train in Santa Fe "Pablo the Dragon", Forrest's Dragon bracelet, and Douglas Preston's books titled, "Mount Dragon," and "Santa's Dragon," set in Santa Fe.

Apparently, Santa Fe is the home of Dragons, in the same way that the universe is in the palm of your hand. Cheers.